All MIDI notes rec and playback doubled [RESOLVED]
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Re: All MIDI notes recording and playiing back doubled
Definitely not doing that here. MIDI Editing is working as always (perfectly) here.
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Re: All MIDI notes recording and playiing back doubled
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:It's sounds like the opt key is stuck...
fair enough observation(s), but check my "MIDI editing DEAD" post and you'll see that, using the same OS, same MIDI driver on the same Mac (and keyboard), it's *not* happening with 6.03, but is with 7.02 and 7.1James Steele wrote:But he's dragging and the behavior is indeed just as if the Opt key was being held down.
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Re: All MIDI notes recording and playiing back doubled
What kind of mouse or trackball device are you using?williemyers wrote:MIDI Life Crisis wrote:It's sounds like the opt key is stuck...fair enough observation(s), but check my "MIDI editing DEAD" post and you'll see that, using the same OS, same MIDI driver on the same Mac (and keyboard), it's *not* happening with 6.03, but is with 7.02 and 7.1James Steele wrote:But he's dragging and the behavior is indeed just as if the Opt key was being held down.
And okay... it's happening to you. Believe me, I'd like to get to the bottom of this because even if nobody else is having this behavior, until yours is cleared up DP will be suspect.
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Re: All MIDI notes recording and playiing back doubled
hey, thanks, all. it's reassuring to hear from a couple of you that you've checked it on your systems without problems. I really didn't think MOTU would release a version with glaring mistake and I'm pretty sure now that it's something on my system - some file that, as Zed said, 7.02 and 7.1 share, but not 6.03. I'll do total reinstalls tomorrow and report back.
thanks again
thanks again
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Re: All MIDI notes recording and playiing back doubled
Just curious; do you use a utility like USB Overdrive which remaps your USB controls? That is, it can make any button on any device do any button-tasks?
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Re: All MIDI notes recording and playiing back doubled
All I can add to this is that when it happened to me, I realized that my keyboard controller would always boot up in OMNI mode, meaning that it would send its own MIDI data and that DP would augment that MIDI input data with that of its own... resulting in double notes.
As with any new version of "anything", perhaps DP preferences need to be reset to accommodate this anomaly? Or that the controller might be reset to OMNI Mode OFF.
As with any new version of "anything", perhaps DP preferences need to be reset to accommodate this anomaly? Or that the controller might be reset to OMNI Mode OFF.
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Re: All MIDI notes recording and playiing back doubled
Performance Mode will also send multiple MIDI outs simultaneously on many keyboards.
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Re: All MIDI notes recording and playiing back doubled
Yeah... I was thinking along these lines when I asked if his keyboard had multiple zones and more than one could be activated and could result in sending duplicate notes when recording MIDI.Frodo wrote:All I can add to this is that when it happened to me, I realized that my keyboard controller would always boot up in OMNI mode, meaning that it would send its own MIDI data and that DP would augment that MIDI input data with that of its own... resulting in double notes.
As with any new version of "anything", perhaps DP preferences need to be reset to accommodate this anomaly? Or that the controller might be reset to OMNI Mode OFF.
To help narrow it down, I would say that he should record some MIDI as he usually does, then immediately look at the Event List for that track and see if the duplicate notes are being created upon recording... which would indicate a setting on the MIDI controller keyboard.
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He might also try disconnecting or disabling his qwerty kbd to make sure it isn't sending an opt key. Same for his mousey...
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Re: All MIDI notes recording and playiing back doubled
OK. Just got back in the studio. I WASN'T DP!
I must have hit something on the controller kybd. I did a factory reset and all is well.
Yipee! Back to work. Thanks everyone.
I must have hit something on the controller kybd. I did a factory reset and all is well.
Yipee! Back to work. Thanks everyone.
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Re: All MIDI notes rec and playback doubled [RESOLVED]
"That darned DP7... everything was working fine and now..." Oops.
Thanks for coming back here and letting us know it wasn't a DP issue. A lot of people don't.
I added "[RESOLVED" to the subject header.

Thanks for coming back here and letting us know it wasn't a DP issue. A lot of people don't.

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Re: All MIDI notes rec and playback doubled [RESOLVED]
Except a stuck option key would cause zooming to preclude any copying...
Re: All MIDI notes recording and playiing back doubled
He "ASKED HIS DOCTOR" he he...NealF wrote:OK. Just got back in the studio. I WASN'T DP!
I must have hit something on the controller kybd. I did a factory reset and all is well.
Yipee! Back to work. Thanks everyone.


Re: All MIDI notes rec and playback doubled [RESOLVED]

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L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 12 MB
Memory: 32 GB. Mojave. DP 9 and Apogee Duet.