Hi Everyone! This question is gonna take everybody WAY BACK...
I know this is a long shot, but a couple of months ago I bought an old MIDI Timepiece One because I want to try to set up a MIDI sequencing setup around an old Macintosh SE running Performer 4.2. The only thing is that I had forgotten that the MTP needs software to run. Back in 1996 I remember buying a used MTP II, and I had forgotten that it came with disks to install the MTP II Console (it turns out I still have a compressed version of that installer). While I had read that the MTP II Console also works with the MTP I, it only runs in Mac System 7 or above because it needs FreeMIDI to run). Just for giggles I did write MOTU to see if they had a copy of the MTP I desk accessory installer, but their archives dont go back that far...
I'm trying to avoid installing System 7 on this Mac because I hear that it runs crazy slow on the Mac SE... So I'm asking if anyone of you folks may have a copy of the MTP I desk accessory installer somewhere in your archives, either on a floppy disk or disk image (or a stuffit file).
Thanks in advance... We now return you to 2024...
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Re: OG MIDI Timepiece ONE
I'm trying to avoid installing System 7 on this Mac because I hear that it runs crazy slow on the Mac SE...
That's surprising because System 7 did not slow down my Mac Plus.
Like many of us here, I used to have all those disks but they went out in a purge 20 years ago or so..
That's surprising because System 7 did not slow down my Mac Plus.
Like many of us here, I used to have all those disks but they went out in a purge 20 years ago or so..
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Re: OG MIDI Timepiece ONE
IIRC, system 7 did run a lot slower than 6 if you had a mac without sufficient RAM.
As for the discs, I’ve seen links to old mac stuff that was moved to the public domain. I think one of several MacAttorney lists might be a place to look for it.
As for the discs, I’ve seen links to old mac stuff that was moved to the public domain. I think one of several MacAttorney lists might be a place to look for it.
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Re: OG MIDI Timepiece ONE
Ok so to update on my situation:
I tried to install System 7.1 and FreeMIDI. Apparently FreeMIDI needs at least 8 MB to run. I was able to install it with only 4 MB, but anything I tried to run after that would crash. No dice...
Finally I ended up finding another MTP I online in its original box, with manual and install disks. I ordered it, not knowing if the disks were still any good, or if the floppy drive in my SE was still working... I took apart the drive and cleaned it, then tested it with a blank disk I had the day before I was supposed to receive the MTP. Even the day I got the MTP, I just put the disk in, and copied the contents to the internal drive before ejecting the disk... Everything worked well...
So yes, you do need the MTP I Desk Accessory in order for the Mac to see the MTP. Performer 4.2 works great with the Mac SE in System 6.0.8 (although I am going to get a 68030 accelerator board because the refresh rates are painfully slow). Its also nostalgic running this 30 year old version of Performer and re-learning how to MIDI sequence my old hardware without some "old" Performer features (like not having detailed tracks in the tracks window (just grey/black bricks), split notes automatically pasting on its own separate tracks, etc.)...
I tried to install System 7.1 and FreeMIDI. Apparently FreeMIDI needs at least 8 MB to run. I was able to install it with only 4 MB, but anything I tried to run after that would crash. No dice...
Finally I ended up finding another MTP I online in its original box, with manual and install disks. I ordered it, not knowing if the disks were still any good, or if the floppy drive in my SE was still working... I took apart the drive and cleaned it, then tested it with a blank disk I had the day before I was supposed to receive the MTP. Even the day I got the MTP, I just put the disk in, and copied the contents to the internal drive before ejecting the disk... Everything worked well...
So yes, you do need the MTP I Desk Accessory in order for the Mac to see the MTP. Performer 4.2 works great with the Mac SE in System 6.0.8 (although I am going to get a 68030 accelerator board because the refresh rates are painfully slow). Its also nostalgic running this 30 year old version of Performer and re-learning how to MIDI sequence my old hardware without some "old" Performer features (like not having detailed tracks in the tracks window (just grey/black bricks), split notes automatically pasting on its own separate tracks, etc.)...
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