Wish list For DP 5.1 (or DP5?)

For seeking technical help with Digital Performer and/or plug-ins on MacOS.

Moderator: James Steele

Forum rules
This forum is for seeking solutions to technical problems involving Digital Performer and/or plug-ins on MacOS, as well as feature requests, criticisms, comparison to other DAWs.
Post Reply
chaim
Posts: 486
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: NY

Wish list For DP 5.1 (or DP5?)

Post by chaim »

Thank You MOTU for the new DP5 features.

But always room for more:


••• MIDI Assignments - (just like Audio Assignments)

••• DP plays other audio formats along side SDII with out converting. (just like new Logic 7.2)

••• DP shows which tracks are active on the connected Control Surface. (Logic 7.2) Useful for those that don't have a scribble strip.

••• Mackie Control or any other control surface reflects DP's mixer when a track is hidden.
User avatar
jr213
Posts: 120
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: Austin, TX
Contact:

Post by jr213 »

I'd still like to see 16 and 24 bit formats supported in the same project.
Rush909
Posts: 320
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: Unspecified

Post by Rush909 »

I'll play along...

1. MIDI notes Mute.

2. Vertical Zoom in the Track Overview.

3. usable track Freeze feature (ala Logic, etc...)
spirit
Posts: 406
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: Unspecified

Post by spirit »

ESSENTIAL
Dae7 support.
Bounce to Disk in DAE will include all RTAS, virtural instruments etc.

LESS ESSENTIAL.
Fix the add a track all sends go to pre bug in DAE mode.
Rewire in DAE mode.
Single command to play again from last play start point (i.e. press play again while DP is playing).
Faster loading/unloading in DAE mode.
Preference so that edit selection in Tracks window is not changed by activity anywhere else (other windows etc.).
User avatar
grimepoch
Posts: 1878
Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: NC
Contact:

Re: Wish list For DP 5.1 (or DP5?)

Post by grimepoch »

••• MIDI Assignments - (just like Audio Assignments)
Maybe I don't understand this correctly, but I believe if you mean like from the audio bundles, this is an added feature of DP5.0 I read.
[MacPro-4x2.66/7G/OSX10.5.2 - 2x896HD - ADA8000 - Lucid Genx6 - DP5.13 - Logic 8.02 - 2xUAD1e - ExpressXT - Mach5 - MX4 - Korg LegD - impOSCar - Battery3 - uTonic - Rapture - DimPro - Vanguard - Reaktor5 - Absynth4 - FM8 - Pro53 - Vokator - Waldorf Ed - Addictive Drums - Melodyne - Ultra Analog - Zebra2 - WaveArts - - Altiverb - Etc. ]
[Virus TI - Virus B - Waldorf Q - Waldorf uwXT - Supernova II - Nord Rack 3 - JP8080 - XV5080 - Fantom X7 - Triton Rack - Pro/cussion]
User avatar
kelldammit
Posts: 1012
Joined: Sun May 22, 2005 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: Windows
Location: right behind you!
Contact:

Post by kelldammit »

lotsa nice new stuff in there...mine are still the usual:

1. better performance optimization (ala logic).
2. bug fixes. that stuck MIDI note thing is driving people nuts.
3. native support for aiff/wav/bwav formats (i.e. no import to sdII).
4. pan law of -6db for mono channels, and -3db for stereo channels.
5. freeze/redesigned instrument tracks. the instrument track is MIDI, until frozen. then you see a blue waveform image on that track, and the track effectively becomes an audio channel. no separate MIDI/audio channels. nice and clean. it would be sweet if rewire tracks functioned similarly...
also, when freeze is applied, the vi is disabled/bypassed with the current settings saved, so it would no longer use system resources, but is still recallable simply by un-freezing the track.
6. ability to force mono vi tracks, as well as better support for plugs with multiple output busses (battery2). i just hate having to bounce a part just to make it mono. also, for a typical drum kit, i usually break out individual drums to separate channels...and battery is not 5.1 :)
7. project=>export audio. basically a one-step mixdown bounce, settings in preferences (i.e. format, bit depth, save to location). includes vi's, rewire, etc in the mixdown file.
8. (i know i'm dreaming) matrix/dematrix surround plugin for master section (lrcs/prologic/6.1ex, etc).
9. alternative speaker setup bundles...for instance, if doing lrcs mixes on a 5.1 setup, the current lcrs bundle only allows for 1 rear surround speaker. is there any way to add a second identical surround speaker, and bump both surround outputs down -6db?
10. low latency direct monitoring with 3rd party hardware :)

that's about all i can think of. most of it's kinda nit-picking. i'm pretty happy with everything else :)

kell
chaim
Posts: 486
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: NY

Re: Wish list For DP 5.1 (or DP5?)

Post by chaim »

grimepoch wrote:
••• MIDI Assignments - (just like Audio Assignments)
Maybe I don't understand this correctly, but I believe if you mean like from the audio bundles, this is an added feature of DP5.0 I read.
No. I'm not talking about that. Let say you add 16 new MIDI tracks. Now you see DP assigned a default output for them. But you want it set to, say, Kontakt 2, 1 through 16. As of now the only way to do that is manually each and every one of them. Why not make it automatic like "Audio Assignments" (select tracks, then option A)
chaim
Posts: 486
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: NY

Post by chaim »

Rush909 wrote:I'll play along...

1. MIDI notes Mute.
YES PLEASE!!!

••• Please DO NOT ADD "copy" when dragging tracks from clipping window.

Or when adding 'similar tracks'

Or at least make it an option.

••• Remember track 'Groups" if any, when dragging tracks from clipping window.
User avatar
grimepoch
Posts: 1878
Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: NC
Contact:

Re: Wish list For DP 5.1 (or DP5?)

Post by grimepoch »

chaim wrote: No. I'm not talking about that. Let say you add 16 new MIDI tracks. Now you see DP assigned a default output for them. But you want it set to, say, Kontakt 2, 1 through 16. As of now the only way to do that is manually each and every one of them. Why not make it automatic like "Audio Assignments" (select tracks, then option A)
Ahh, okay. Well I guess I just never used that, I'm normally adding one at a time. What was frustrating me is that when I added even one, the default output for the MIDI wasn't selectable, and the new MIDI bundles thing will allow me to control the default MIDI input/output from now on.

Of course, it's really just the MIDI input I want to set, as I've got like 10 synths, so the output could never really work as a default. I'll have to read up on the audio assignements.

Let me ask you this, and point me in the manual if you know. I recently added an 896HD and had to setup tiger to use an Aggregate device. The problem is now all my audio bundles are incorrect. In one file I went through and changed all the names and mapping in the audio bundles, is there anyway to export that matrix & names and import it into older files? I saved what I had done as the new default template, but this isn't helping for older files, and I'm using 24+ inputs so you can imagine how long it takes to enter all the information in.
[MacPro-4x2.66/7G/OSX10.5.2 - 2x896HD - ADA8000 - Lucid Genx6 - DP5.13 - Logic 8.02 - 2xUAD1e - ExpressXT - Mach5 - MX4 - Korg LegD - impOSCar - Battery3 - uTonic - Rapture - DimPro - Vanguard - Reaktor5 - Absynth4 - FM8 - Pro53 - Vokator - Waldorf Ed - Addictive Drums - Melodyne - Ultra Analog - Zebra2 - WaveArts - - Altiverb - Etc. ]
[Virus TI - Virus B - Waldorf Q - Waldorf uwXT - Supernova II - Nord Rack 3 - JP8080 - XV5080 - Fantom X7 - Triton Rack - Pro/cussion]
chaim
Posts: 486
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: NY

Re: Wish list For DP 5.1 (or DP5?)

Post by chaim »

grimepoch wrote:Let me ask you this, and point me in the manual if you know. I recently added an 896HD and had to setup tiger to use an Aggregate device. The problem is now all my audio bundles are incorrect. In one file I went through and changed all the names and mapping in the audio bundles, is there anyway to export that matrix & names and import it into older files? I saved what I had done as the new default template, but this isn't helping for older files, and I'm using 24+ inputs so you can imagine how long it takes to enter all the information in.
I don't use Tiger.

DP could handle multiple interfaces in the Hardware set up. Shift click.
User avatar
grimepoch
Posts: 1878
Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: NC
Contact:

Re: Wish list For DP 5.1 (or DP5?)

Post by grimepoch »

chaim wrote: DP could handle multiple interfaces in the Hardware set up. Shift click.
It still has that option, but it doesn't work right with two 896HDs. If I select them both in DP, no matter how I try to sync them, I get pops and clicks. If I create an aggregate device, no pops and clicks in everything except quicktime (don't ask, no one else can figure it out either).
[MacPro-4x2.66/7G/OSX10.5.2 - 2x896HD - ADA8000 - Lucid Genx6 - DP5.13 - Logic 8.02 - 2xUAD1e - ExpressXT - Mach5 - MX4 - Korg LegD - impOSCar - Battery3 - uTonic - Rapture - DimPro - Vanguard - Reaktor5 - Absynth4 - FM8 - Pro53 - Vokator - Waldorf Ed - Addictive Drums - Melodyne - Ultra Analog - Zebra2 - WaveArts - - Altiverb - Etc. ]
[Virus TI - Virus B - Waldorf Q - Waldorf uwXT - Supernova II - Nord Rack 3 - JP8080 - XV5080 - Fantom X7 - Triton Rack - Pro/cussion]
User avatar
dpdan
Posts: 763
Joined: Sun Dec 26, 2004 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: Midwest
Contact:

Post by dpdan »

A rolling MIDI edit, in other words, the ability to highlight two MIDI notes that overlap each other, and only move the transition of those notes to each other, earlier or later.

That would be great. I spoke to Dave Roberts about this at AES he said that would be great!

Also it would be cool if the ruler bar "measures" could display time or measures.

In pitch correction, if the track color is red or blue, the vibrato line (whatever it is called) could be lightly outlined in white. Only because when I am drawing in new data, if the track color is red, I need to temporarily change the track color to see it. Tisk tisk :)


Dan,
User avatar
Tim
Posts: 2757
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: So Cal

Post by Tim »

User chooses default pencil tool in the MIDI edit window, or make it stay where I last left it instead of defaulting to Pitch Bend. Or is pitch bend the most used tool (I use ∆#7 the most)? I know that seems like a minor thing, but it's bugged me for years.
User avatar
Tim
Posts: 2757
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: So Cal

Re: Wish list For DP 5.1 (or DP5?)

Post by Tim »

grimepoch wrote:
chaim wrote:
Let me ask you this, and point me in the manual if you know. I recently added an 896HD and had to setup tiger to use an Aggregate device. The problem is now all my audio bundles are incorrect. In one file I went through and changed all the names and mapping in the audio bundles, is there anyway to export that matrix & names and import it into older files? I saved what I had done as the new default template, but this isn't helping for older files, and I'm using 24+ inputs so you can imagine how long it takes to enter all the information in.
Use File Menu/Load to import Audio Bundles (dont' load Chunks or Soundbites).
User avatar
grimepoch
Posts: 1878
Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: NC
Contact:

Re: Wish list For DP 5.1 (or DP5?)

Post by grimepoch »

Tim wrote: Use File Menu/Load to import Audio Bundles (dont' load Chunks or Soundbites).
Excellent! I will try that out, thanks!!!
[MacPro-4x2.66/7G/OSX10.5.2 - 2x896HD - ADA8000 - Lucid Genx6 - DP5.13 - Logic 8.02 - 2xUAD1e - ExpressXT - Mach5 - MX4 - Korg LegD - impOSCar - Battery3 - uTonic - Rapture - DimPro - Vanguard - Reaktor5 - Absynth4 - FM8 - Pro53 - Vokator - Waldorf Ed - Addictive Drums - Melodyne - Ultra Analog - Zebra2 - WaveArts - - Altiverb - Etc. ]
[Virus TI - Virus B - Waldorf Q - Waldorf uwXT - Supernova II - Nord Rack 3 - JP8080 - XV5080 - Fantom X7 - Triton Rack - Pro/cussion]
Post Reply