Disable/ Enable Track bug in DP 11.1- anyone else?

[ghobish]

Anyone else seeing this bug in DP 11.1?

Never an issue before. When I enable a disabled track or disable an enabled track, the program hard crashes with "DP quit unexpectedly."

This is in a new project (from a template) with 13 stereo tracks, 3 aux tracks and a Master track, no audio soundbytes loaded, no plugins, no MIDI.

[cuttime]

Not here, but 11.1 has been crashtastic for some. I solved most of those issues, but they were related to instrument tracks.

[mikehalloran]

I would do a Safe Boot of both the Mac and DP. These have fixed random crashes for me so often in DP that I now do both after an install or update.

Both are ancient Stupid Mac Tricks.

[ghobish]

I opened a ticket for this at MOTU; it has now been acknowledged as a known bug.

[dix]

Hoo-boy, yes! Confirmed.

DP11.1 crashes immediately when enabling instrument tracks here too. A workaround is to disable MAS and enable them while in MIDI Only mode, but that only will work on local instruments in the sequence from the SE. I don't know of way enable instruments in a V-Rack while in MIDI Only.

Booting the Mac into Safe Mode (which is now kind of a convuluted pain on AS Mac's imo), or DP into Safe Mode didn't help.

I'll report this too.

[dix]

...weirdly intermittent for me though. While investigating whether this was related to the new Enhanced Instrument Tracks, at some point the crash behavior went away, and I can dis/enable tracks normally in that sequence. New documents created with a template created in 11.04 or earlier has the crash-on-enable issue, but new documents created from scratch in DP11.1 do not.

[HCMarkus]

Not seeing this issue here. Currently working on projects started in DP10.13. I'll check again after lunch...

[dix]

Hmm. So not an M1 issue.

I happen to be working on a project dredged up from 2013 (DP8?), and it has the issue, as does any sequence I've tried that was built from a template I created last July with DP11, or 11.01.

...this thread should be probably get moved to Trouble Shooting/Criticism.

[James Steele]

...this thread should be probably get moved to Trouble Shooting/Criticism.

Agreed. Done.

[HCMarkus]

Hmm. So not an M1 issue.

Confirmed... NOT happening on the Mac Studio. And this is with a project begun in DP10.13

[mikehalloran]

I can't make it happen on my iMac Pro or M1 MBAir. It will be interesting to see if there's an identifiable culprit or if it gets listed in a later release as 'fixed'.

[dix]

Curiouser and curiouser. Thanks everyone for confirming.

I also notice that that the OP doesn't specify that the issue only happens on Instrument tracks, which is the case for me. I have no issues dis/enabling audio tracks. ...oh, and the OP isn't on an M1, so that wasn't ever a factor I guess.

[dix]

After MOTU support asked me which window I was using when it crashed, I noticed DP11.1 doesn't crash when doing dis/enabling from the SE. It only happens when en/disabling tracks from the Mixer or the Channel Strip - happens when en/disabling Audio tracks from the Mixer too. ...so that's an easy enough workaround except for instruments in a V-Rack, which can only be accessed from the Mixer. Dis/enabling channels or instruments in a V-Rack also crashes DP11.1.

[Eleventh Hour Sound]

Yes, I've been having this too on a 2019 MacBook Pro running Catalina. Thanks for the reminder, I think I had found and forgot the workaround. I'm glad MOTU is aware of it