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MIDI from audio

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Is there a way to create MIDI from an audio track. I want to create a MIDI track to trigger a synth bass from my audio bass track and blend the two in a mix.
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Re: MIDI from audio

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YMMV. I've had limited success with this. It helps if the audio track is very clean, dry, simple and monophonic:

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Page 944 these days.
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Something to check out if you'll be doing this often: https://www.jamorigin.com/
You can blend in real time and they have a version specifically for bass with free trials.
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cuttime wrote:Page 944 these days.
Oh no! Not :rtfmmad: ?!?!?!
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cuttime wrote:Page 944 these days.
What's interesting is I don't know if that was a joke.
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I haven't used it in a while, but Melodyne does a pretty good job of this.

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Phil O wrote:
cuttime wrote:Page 944 these days.
What's interesting is I don't know if that was a joke.
That's sorta' what I was a thinking, too. The proverbial haystack keeps getting bigger. That said, the searchable .pdf manual does make the task less daunting than it used to be...
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HCMarkus wrote:
Phil O wrote:
cuttime wrote:Page 944 these days.
What's interesting is I don't know if that was a joke.
That's sorta' what I was a thinking, too. The proverbial haystack keeps getting bigger. That said, the searchable .pdf manual does make the task less daunting than it used to be...
Not a joke. The thread I originally linked to gave a different page number, and I did it to avoid confusion,
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The joke is on me. I mistakenly went to page 994 instead of page 944. Page 994 is blank. :oops:
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I tend to use the manual dexterity method, being essentially a keys player these days. I don't say that flippantly (or don't I?... lol). But if the music is accessible within your technique, it might be a lot quicker and more accurate just entering the notes from a controller.

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MIDI Life Crisis wrote:I tend to use the manual dexterity method
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cuttime wrote:
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:I tend to use the manual dexterity method
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Melodyne can be quite successful at this, depending on the source.

Where it breaks down the worst, is when you've recorded something from a keyboard ROMpler with the master effects and reverb at default settings, which invariably are quite high. This causes massive confusion in distinguishing unique notes, as reverb tails can get discretized to lots of individual staccato hits.
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Re: MIDI from audio

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Done this successfully with Melodyne as well...
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