D.P. 9.02 dispo on MOTU Site

[mikehalloran]

I have not seen the splash screen since the update. Since DP 9.02 loads a lot faster, I don't miss it. Yes, the preference is checked.

[Terra303]

Anyone try loading a movie into a project with a third party video interface yet?

I'm using a Blackmagic Mini Monitor via Thunderbolt, and I'm getting spinning beach balls. Even when I try to clear the movie window, DP freezes up. Not sure if I'm doing this right...

[Killahurts]

I have not seen the splash screen since the update. Since DP 9.02 loads a lot faster, I don't miss it. Yes, the preference is checked.

I get it every time since 9.02, and it had lately become intermittent!

I'm on Yosemite, not El Cap, so there's a difference.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Well, Rats.

I do a lot of scoring to video in DP. I upgraded to 9.02, and now in the two different projects I've tried, the movies don't display. The movie pane just shows black. What's more, if I double-click on the video pane (which is supposed to pull the movie out into its own window), the entire program freezes up. It even froze up the Finder, so I can't open and close folders or start the Time Machine program while DP is spinning its color wheel in the background.

This is grim. I guess I'll force-quit, and see if Time Machine can give me version 9.01 back.

(iMac i7, 32 Gbytes, OSX 10.11.3).

I just did three films in as many days in DP and updated DP during that process. I also reimported the video (24 fps .mov) in DP 9.02 and everything is going along swimmingly. I won't be moving from Yosemite in the foreseeable future. If this is my last OS, so be it, but it's working great and all the stuff I need to survive is working.

Rodney: what is your video format and fps? I'm using .mov @ 24fps and they're all working great. Do you have a third party video card or output device other than an attached computer screen?

[MIDI Life Crisis]

I have not seen the splash screen since the update. Since DP 9.02 loads a lot faster, I don't miss it. Yes, the preference is checked.

However... not seeing the splash screen also means not seeing the plugs that are loading and I do miss that. Got the splash screen at first launch this morning.

[mikehalloran]

This is grim. I guess I'll force-quit, and see if Time Machine can give me version 9.01 back.

No need. Just install DP 9.01
http://www.motu.com/download/download_m ... oduct_id=1

[MIDI Life Crisis]

This is grim. I guess I'll force-quit, and see if Time Machine can give me version 9.01 back.

No need. Just install DP 9.01
http://www.motu.com/download/download_m ... oduct_id=1

Or take a few minutes to re-export a test video and get back to us on your output hardware.

[bayswater]

Do I really think it's necessary? Only for DP users—otherwise, not really. I don't think that Apple should have removed the API from Disk Utility but it is dead easy to copy and paste a line into Terminal — and wicked fast if you boot from an SSD.

As per Apple, repairing permissions is no longer necessary because new security features prevent them from being altered. Repair Permissions compares the current permissions with the BOM that lists what they should be. The BOM is provided by the software developer. So if Apple is correct, and the permissions do not match the BOM, it is because the installer did not write them correctly, or they provided an incorrect BOM.

On the other hand, perhaps installers use the BOM to write the permissions? I couldn't find anything to verify that. If this is what happens during installation, then Apple has it wrong, and permissions did change after installation.

Either way, the need to repair permissions has not gone away.

[Michael Canavan]

Ouch. Are you using vst or au format plugins? And what version of OSX?

VST, AU as it stands doesn't send MIDI out from plug ins, this is needed with Maschine to set up Scene firing. ElCapitan, latest everything, except DP as of now.. I'll talk to MOTU tech about it, phone calls are quicker. It works really well in 9.01 BTW, and because AU is crippled this way it's something Logic cannot do.

I think I'm in the minority on OSX in terms of using VSTi MIDI out with DP9, so I'm not surprised this bug got missed in testing.

I'm a little confused - do you have two issues? I know you wrote about the tripling of MIDI entries earlier.

A picture is worth a thousand words they say. VSTi out is MIDI, virtual MIDI from the plug in. These are what's being relentlessly copied.

[mikehalloran]

I have not seen the splash screen since the update. Since DP 9.02 loads a lot faster, I don't miss it. Yes, the preference is checked.

However... not seeing the splash screen also means not seeing the plugs that are loading and I do miss that. Got the splash screen at first launch this morning.

Really? All of the plugins are there but, you are correct, I do not see them load without the splash screen.

Isn't the new SMPTE plugin suppose to be in this update?

That's the way the NAMM videos seemed to say; the external hardware plugin routing deal is in the coming features category but SMPTE I thought was in 9.02.

The NAMM video may indicate, "Yes", but the NAMM press release clearly says, "No"

Availability

Workflow enhancements will be released in Digital Performer 9.02, to be released in Q1, 2016. The Next-gen Pre-gen engine, latency enhancements, SMPTE-Z plug-in and Hardware Insert plug-in will be released in a free update in Q2, 2016.
http://cdn-data.motu.com/marketing/motu ... 016-pr.pdf

[musicman691]

I'm a little confused - do you have two issues? I know you wrote about the tripling of MIDI entries earlier.

A picture is worth a thousand words they say. VSTi out is MIDI, virtual MIDI from the plug in. These are what's being relentlessly copied.

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Not seeing that but then again I don't have Maschine but I do have a lot of other NI stuff (Komplete 9). Do you have any way of trying this on a different OSX version? Could be an El Crapitan issue.

[Michael Canavan]

For fun I threw Geist, another VSTi that sends MIDI out and it also triples the input. <--- Sorry about that mistake earlier, it's the input selection for a MIDI track where 9.02 triples or more a VSTi, which makes sense in terms of it being an issue since that's what's different about a VSTi that can send MIDI out.
Trackspacer for instance in that list is not on a track that Maschine is on.

Doesn't let Maschine off the hook though, as NI have a Virtual MIDI input/output driver obviously, that shows up in the Input and Output list in DP whether Maschine is instantiated or not.

[Michael Canavan]

Not seeing that but then again I don't have Maschine but I do have a lot of other NI stuff (Komplete 9). Do you have any way of trying this on a different OSX version? Could be an El Crapitan issue.

There are only a few VSTi's that output MIDI to the host, Reaktor can, so load an instance into a V-Rack and see if the VSTi repeated a couple times. I get three without Maschine loaded into the DP project. Also, when I delete the instrument, the repeats stay, I'm left with two Reaktors in my Input for a MIDI track. If I recall Reaktor into the instrument track I get more than three repeats(ghost inputs).

I would definitely appreciate it if you loaded an instance of Reaktor 5 and let me know if you have the same issue. Curious to know if this is a bug on my system or a global one?

I've sent in a tech link to MOTU like a good end user.

[amplidood]

Woohoo!! Separate background colors for audio and MIDI tracks in the SE are back!!

[RodneySauer]

I just did three films in as many days in DP and updated DP during that process. I also reimported the video (24 fps .mov) in DP 9.02 and everything is going along swimmingly. I won't be moving from Yosemite in the foreseeable future. If this is my last OS, so be it, but it's working great and all the stuff I need to survive is working.

Rodney: what is your video format and fps? I'm using .mov @ 24fps and they're all working great. Do you have a third party video card or output device other than an attached computer screen?

Formats vary from project to project; sometimes .mov, sometimes .mp4. Sometimes 24 fps, sometime 23.97, sometimes even 25 fps when working on European things. I've had this happen on everything I've tried so far. No special hardware: the video file sits on a hard drive (usually a different one from the project, which is different from the drive where the program lives). I use the video screen to make it show in DP, either in a pane of the consolidated window (when I'm working) or floating above (when I'm reviewing the work I've done).

This last time I saw the first frame of the video, but it didn't advance when I told it to start. And then I got the spinning wheel of death, and the Force Quit Applications window says Digital Performer is "not responding." Maybe I'll try re-importing the video?