Multiple Audio Outputs in Mach 5 = impossible?

[prekoks]

is that impossible to use multiple audio outputs in Mach Five?

the manual says that only the MAIN output is possible for Audio Units hosts...

shame! if it's true...

[billf]

is that impossible to use multiple audio outputs in Mach Five?

the manual says that only the MAIN output is possible for Audio Units hosts...

shame! if it's true...

What DAW are you using?

[prekoks]

hi

i use Logic 7.1.1 & X4.3

the manual says it's not possible. the VST (VST-> AU) version crashes my system with some terrible noise...

j

[micsinger]

it seems to be true. What a shame. I ve had the same problem under pro tools LE (but here it was the fault of pro tools‘ "RTAS Standard" which handled virtual instruments as normal audio effect plugins on audio channels). But now I have DP and everything works great.
Cant imagine that the AU standard does not supply support for this. Wait for mach five v2, maybe you will be lucky...

[chrispick]

Can you not assign separate outputs for each sample channel within Mach Five?

[micsinger]

hi

i use Logic 7.1.1 & X4.3

the manual says it's not possible. the VST (VST-> AU) version crashes my system with some terrible noise...

j

Do you use the fxpansion wrapper?
This should work indeed! Did you contact their support resources? You use the latest version? Tiger compatible?

[prekoks]

hi,

i use the latest M5 version wchich is 1.23 (afaik)

i haven't tryed the wrapper...is it something diffrent then VST->Au adapter?

thnx in advance

j

[torsig1967]

Tried MachFive at my local dealer and he could not assign anything else than main out from MachFive into Logic either.

But strangely enough another four outputs (labeled MachFive 4-6) are presented at the aux-inputs in Logic - but inside MachFive they are nowhere to be found. How can this be?

Is this a bug that's going to be fixed?

[jimlongo]

In Protools RTAS you get 17 stereo outputs per MachFive instrument.

On any ProTools input you get those same 17 cannels of input.

[carlos el loco]

I'm having no luck with multiple outs in Ableton Live 5. Has anyone been able ton get this to work? (sorry )

[neiljohnstonii]

Multiple outs for Mach V work fine in DP 4.6 for me. Haven't tried it in Logic yet, I've been using Kontakt 2 in Logic 7.1

Have you tried other multi out VI's in Logic? Even with Kontakt there is a pretty involved process to get the multiple outs working. Not nearly as straight forward as DP. Checkout the Logic discussions at Apples web site and do a search. That's how I figured the multiple outs for Kontakt in Logic. There are about 17 steps to follow, but once set up it works fine.

The only pitfall is bouncing the tracks. When using multi out VI's you have to solo each track and bounce one at a time (if you want the audio on separate tracks). I use BFD All and run into this problem because I don't want a stereo bounce, I want each audio track to remain separate after the bounce.

One way to get around this is I use the ADAT outs of 896HD and route them directly back to the ADAT ins, then I can write 8 tracks simultaneously.

[gblock]

Tried MachFive at my local dealer and he could not assign anything else than main out from MachFive into Logic either.

I just scratched my head on this one... I could have sworn I had this working. Actually, I'm totally wrong. There's specific mention that AudioUnit hosts don't get multiple outs.

I don't know *why* the aux outputs get registered when there's no way to select them, but that does indeed seem to be the case. If I was to foster a guess, I'd guess that either it just wasn't finished, or they decided that Apple's implementation in Logic for setting up those other outputs was bad enough to warrant not shipping it with it enabled.

Anyways, it does appear to be true: Main output to the track only; no aux outputs from the plugin are available. To be fair, it does tell you that - but it does so within the context of also telling you how to set it up as a multi. Under which circumstances you'd want to use it in multi mode without actually having the ability to have multiple outs I'm not sure...

[prekoks]

Multiple outs for Mach V work fine in DP 4.6 for me. Haven't tried it in Logic yet, I've been using Kontakt 2 in Logic 7.1

Have you tried other multi out VI's in Logic? Even with Kontakt there is a pretty involved process to get the multiple outs working. Not nearly as straight forward as DP. Checkout the Logic discussions at Apples web site and do a search. That's how I figured the multiple outs for Kontakt in Logic. There are about 17 steps to follow, but once set up it works fine.

it's not true. u just make the Aux objects and route the outs from the VI to the inputs of the Aux. it works perfect, no problems.

kontakt 2 is useless with logic (there is a very annoying bug, kontakt doesn't play the first note in the midid sequence!)- i have that one also. look for the Ni forum, there are the more then 100 bugs wchich should be adressed in from months!

anyway, manual says: Mach 5 does not support multiple outs in logic.

that really sux.

it's like buying a car: everything is fine BUT u can't open the windows now ("but soon we will fix that"). ah..! u can't also drive too long because it makes the car overheat (but un can buy a cooler kit for ONLY 29.99 $!)

j

[3over3]

In Protools RTAS you get 17 stereo outputs per MachFive instrument.

On any ProTools input you get those same 17 cannels of input.

I just bought MachFive for Windows, assuming that if RTAS on the Mac had multi-outs, then so must RTAS on Windows. Nope! I had a reasonably good look for info before I bought it and didn't find any mention of this strange oversight. Other RTAS VI's have multi-outs on Windows.

Does anyone know if the AU/RTAS situation is due to get better when V2 materialises? (and sorry, I'm new, that may actually be the stupidest question I could ask...)

[neiljohnstonii]

Multiple outs for Mach V work fine in DP 4.6 for me. Haven't tried it in Logic yet, I've been using Kontakt 2 in Logic 7.1

Have you tried other multi out VI's in Logic? Even with Kontakt there is a pretty involved process to get the multiple outs working. Not nearly as straight forward as DP. Checkout the Logic discussions at Apples web site and do a search. That's how I figured the multiple outs for Kontakt in Logic. There are about 17 steps to follow, but once set up it works fine.

it's not true. u just make the Aux objects and route the outs from the VI to the inputs of the Aux. it works perfect, no problems.

kontakt 2 is useless with logic (there is a very annoying bug, kontakt doesn't play the first note in the midid sequence!)- i have that one also. look for the Ni forum, there are the more then 100 bugs wchich should be adressed in from months!

anyway, manual says: Mach 5 does not support multiple outs in logic.

that really sux.

it's like buying a car: everything is fine BUT u can't open the windows now ("but soon we will fix that"). ah..! u can't also drive too long because it makes the car overheat (but un can buy a cooler kit for ONLY 29.99 $!)

j

Yes, you are correct in that this is a simplified way to use a multi audio instrument in Logic. However, if you want complete control over MIDI channels and the audio routing it gets a little more complicated. For example, for live use you might want to use multiple MIDI controllers and access different instruments within the multi silmultaneously. Then add effects separately to each one of those. Not sure if I am explaning very clearly but take a look at this thread:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jsp ... 17&#762217

Steve Porcaro's post is excellent and the best way to accomplish this.
But like I said, very easy to do in DP, not so easy in Logic.