Petition to optimize MAS
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The forum for petitions, theoretical discussion, gripes, or other matters outside deemed outside the scope of helping users make optimal use of MOTU hardware and software. Posts in other forums may be moved here at the moderators discretion. No politics or religion!!
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE try and optimize the code for Digital Performer so that it is snappier, more responsive, and utilizes OS X more like the competition. It is REALLY noticable and the only bad thing I can say about the program.
Dual G4 450 w/1.5 GB ram, 10.4.3, Mytek 8X96->2408MkII/PCI-324, ATTO UL3D SCSI w/ Atlas 10k RPM, USB Fastlane, DP 4.6.1, Various Plugz, Reason 2.5 etc.
- Shooshie
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Blue's right. We're just going to get spoiled like those Logic and Pro-Tools users. That'll take away our creative edge. What would we do with all that power then?blue wrote:Count me out. I just don't see any reason why DP should get faster and better and be able to load more VIs.
Naaa.... go ahead and spoil us, MOTU! And I'm raising the ante. I'm willing to pay for a full upgrade fee if you will give us a relatively bug-free, optimized audio engine that never sees processor spikes and doesn't click and pop. I've got my $149 waiting here... I'm itching to send it to you. Just give us the chance to be spoiled by a perfect audio engine, and my money is your money, ok?
Shooshie
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- sdfalk
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Count me in on that oneShooshie wrote:Blue's right. We're just going to get spoiled like those Logic and Pro-Tools users. That'll take away our creative edge. What would we do with all that power then?blue wrote:Count me out. I just don't see any reason why DP should get faster and better and be able to load more VIs.
Naaa.... go ahead and spoil us, MOTU! And I'm raising the ante. I'm willing to pay for a full upgrade fee if you will give us a relatively bug-free, optimized audio engine that never sees processor spikes and doesn't click and pop. I've got my $149 waiting here... I'm itching to send it to you. Just give us the chance to be spoiled by a perfect audio engine, and my money is your money, ok?
Shooshie

A 2018 Mac mini with 16 gb of ram
HUGE bunch o' AU instruments/fx...
A Metric Halo ULN8-3D…mmmmmmm
Remember to eat all your fruits and vegetables!
My OS is The amazingly gratuitous 10.14
HUGE bunch o' AU instruments/fx...
A Metric Halo ULN8-3D…mmmmmmm
Remember to eat all your fruits and vegetables!
My OS is The amazingly gratuitous 10.14
- dixiechicken
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- Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: Umea - Sweden
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Yes i'm also in - I think almost all
of us want that.
My iMac is showing it's age - harder and harder to get a decent trackcount
However Mac OS-X itself has serious drawbacks when it comes to efficiency.
Compared with Yewllowdog Linux as an example
Check these links out from two articles from "Anandtech":
http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2436
and
http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2520
It seems the threading model of OS-X leaves something to be desired.
The threading and processforking models implication for audiowork, i.e.
using DP, can be discussed of course - but still...
OS-X is in many respects a fine operating system but it's speed and efficiency
is very poor - it has been so from the very first incarnations.
Apple has in every new release managed to speed things up in the OS-X
and still manage to do so - which in itself suggests that OS-X is poorly designed in this respect.
Cheers: Dixiechicken

My iMac is showing it's age - harder and harder to get a decent trackcount
However Mac OS-X itself has serious drawbacks when it comes to efficiency.
Compared with Yewllowdog Linux as an example
Check these links out from two articles from "Anandtech":
http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2436
and
http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2520
It seems the threading model of OS-X leaves something to be desired.
The threading and processforking models implication for audiowork, i.e.
using DP, can be discussed of course - but still...
OS-X is in many respects a fine operating system but it's speed and efficiency
is very poor - it has been so from the very first incarnations.
Apple has in every new release managed to speed things up in the OS-X
and still manage to do so - which in itself suggests that OS-X is poorly designed in this respect.
Cheers: Dixiechicken
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My God it's full of stars....
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Mac Pro 6-Core Intel Nehalem/Xeon 2.93 GHz 32-GB ram, OS-X 10.13.5-Swe, DP-9.52, Unisyn-2.11, 828-MkII,MTP-AV usb, Latest drvs, Wavearts plugs, Kurzweil-2000, Proteus-2000, EPS-16, Pod-II,
Digitech RP-155, Soundcraft UI-16, Emes Kobalt monitors.
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My God it's full of stars....
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Mac Pro 6-Core Intel Nehalem/Xeon 2.93 GHz 32-GB ram, OS-X 10.13.5-Swe, DP-9.52, Unisyn-2.11, 828-MkII,MTP-AV usb, Latest drvs, Wavearts plugs, Kurzweil-2000, Proteus-2000, EPS-16, Pod-II,
Digitech RP-155, Soundcraft UI-16, Emes Kobalt monitors.
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- iMAS
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- Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: planet zebulazorik
but doesn't Logic and Live run in OSX also ?dixiechicken wrote:It seems the threading model of OS-X leaves something to be desired.
The threading and processforking models implication for audiowork, i.e.
using DP, can be discussed of course - but still...
OS-X is in many respects a fine operating system but it's speed and efficiency
is very poor - it has been so from the very first incarnations.
Apple has in every new release managed to speed things up in the OS-X
and still manage to do so - which in itself suggests that OS-X is poorly designed in this respect.
Cheers: Dixiechicken
optimize please!!
new to DP, and unfortunately don't know the smooth operation of DP in os9......would love to be able to run say 10 trks with a couple of plug-ins and not get cpu spikes and glitches, etc................would feel a bit cheated with having to pay an upgrade already as my first version was 4.52....
using dual 1.25 ghz with 1.75g ram, 10.4.2, motu traveller, (DP, Bidule, SooperLooper)(all used seperately cause of cpu spikes and glitches during recording), JAck, and various hardware misers and fx and MIDI controllers
using dual 1.25 ghz with 1.75g ram, 10.4.2, motu traveller, (DP, Bidule, SooperLooper)(all used seperately cause of cpu spikes and glitches during recording), JAck, and various hardware misers and fx and MIDI controllers
Re: optimize please!!
It'll handle that no problems....I wouldn't worry. The general issue here is the overall optimization of DP compared with the competition. That doesn't mean it can't achieve exactly the same quality results...cors it can!andemech wrote:new to DP, and unfortunately don't know the smooth operation of DP in os9......would love to be able to run say 10 trks with a couple of plug-ins and not get cpu spikes and glitches, etc................would feel a bit cheated with having to pay an upgrade already as my first version was 4.52....
using dual 1.25 ghz with 1.75g ram, 10.4.2, motu traveller, (DP, Bidule, SooperLooper)(all used seperately cause of cpu spikes and glitches during recording), JAck, and various hardware misers and fx and MIDI controllers
Incidently I noticed you use Plogue and Jack. Are they together? or is Plogue rewired into DP?
Might I add that we had better keep posts like these out of this *petition* topic. I think people might complain if we clutter it with other stuff

1ghz 17" Powerbook (currently), 1gig ram, Tiger 10.4.8, DP 4.6.1, Motu 828, Edirol FA-101, Bidule, Reason, SuperCollider, synths, hardware FX, cables, plugs, plug adaptors, extension leads, dust, vacuum cleaner