Mojave MA200 Mic, What Preamp matches well?
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Re: Mojave MA200 Mic, What Preamp matches well?
Here's one more question. Most of the pres mentioned do not have A/D conversion. How are people getting the preamp output into DP? Do I need a second high end box to do the A/D conversion and a third high end box to clock everything? It seems as though the Traveler is not gonna help me do this.
Dave Hearn
Mac Studio, 64g RAM, DP 11.22, 1248 three dozen soft synths, etc.
Mac Studio, 64g RAM, DP 11.22, 1248 three dozen soft synths, etc.
Re: Mojave MA200 Mic, What Preamp matches well?
There is definitely a very audible quality difference between a good outboard AD and a built-in AD in an interface. Of course the price reflects that.
Now there are new (and pretty damn good) boxes by Apogee (like the Duet) that aren't as expensive as things used to be, but I haven't tested them side-by-side with either the more expensive two-channel ADs or with competitor's small interfaces like the MOTU Traveller. So they may or may not be an improvement, I couldn't tell you. I did get tracks that were recorded through the Apogee Duet using outboard mic pres for mixing recently, and they sounded pretty damn nice. (The duet has built-in pres as well, don't know how they sound.)
Now, boxes like the Benchmark ADC1, Lavry AD10 or the brand-new Prismsound Lyra (haven't heard that one, but man, the bigger Prism Sound boxes are killer, so I have high hopes...) are definitely a step up from any interface. But keep in mind, the Traveller mk3 gets you 8 channels of AD *and* 8 channels of DA for just 800 bucks, the Benchmark ADC1 costs north of $1500 for two channels of AD only. It better sound better for that...
I love love LOVE my Benchmark DAC1s for DA. For AD I still have my Lucid Audio 9624 that's no longer in production. It's getting a bit long in the tooth, but still kills the AD in my 2408mk3 dead. Again, considering the price difference it better...
Now there are new (and pretty damn good) boxes by Apogee (like the Duet) that aren't as expensive as things used to be, but I haven't tested them side-by-side with either the more expensive two-channel ADs or with competitor's small interfaces like the MOTU Traveller. So they may or may not be an improvement, I couldn't tell you. I did get tracks that were recorded through the Apogee Duet using outboard mic pres for mixing recently, and they sounded pretty damn nice. (The duet has built-in pres as well, don't know how they sound.)
Now, boxes like the Benchmark ADC1, Lavry AD10 or the brand-new Prismsound Lyra (haven't heard that one, but man, the bigger Prism Sound boxes are killer, so I have high hopes...) are definitely a step up from any interface. But keep in mind, the Traveller mk3 gets you 8 channels of AD *and* 8 channels of DA for just 800 bucks, the Benchmark ADC1 costs north of $1500 for two channels of AD only. It better sound better for that...
I love love LOVE my Benchmark DAC1s for DA. For AD I still have my Lucid Audio 9624 that's no longer in production. It's getting a bit long in the tooth, but still kills the AD in my 2408mk3 dead. Again, considering the price difference it better...
Kubi
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MacPro 2x2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon, 20GB RAM; OS 10.9.5; DP9.01; MOTU 2408mk3 & MIDI Express 128 w/latest drivers
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Kubilay Uner
http://kubilayuner.com
MacPro 2x2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon, 20GB RAM; OS 10.9.5; DP9.01; MOTU 2408mk3 & MIDI Express 128 w/latest drivers
Re: Mojave MA200 Mic, What Preamp matches well?
Most of the time I go through an old hardware Waves L2 for my A/D conversion (S/PDIF into my original 828), but many times I just use the analog ins on the 828 from the L2 and it sounds virtually the same. I was surprised.
Quality pres and mics make a bigger difference IMHO than the converters.
Quality pres and mics make a bigger difference IMHO than the converters.
iMac 2.7 i5, DP 9.5.1, 10.13.3, Apollo Twin, 828, MTPAV, Toontrack, Spectrasonics, BFD3, Drumcore, Reason 10, Live 10, Logic X, Spitfire, Zebra, Miroslav, Waves, Kronos X, MOXF 6, Axiom 49.
Re: Mojave MA200 Mic, What Preamp matches well?
By the way, Kubi, I had a chance to mix an important track today with the recently acquired VCC on virtually every channel and was blown away by the sound I was getting..... thanks for the tip.
iMac 2.7 i5, DP 9.5.1, 10.13.3, Apollo Twin, 828, MTPAV, Toontrack, Spectrasonics, BFD3, Drumcore, Reason 10, Live 10, Logic X, Spitfire, Zebra, Miroslav, Waves, Kronos X, MOXF 6, Axiom 49.
Re: Mojave MA200 Mic, What Preamp matches well?
You're welcome! Glad it's doing the trick!
As for AD converters making less of a difference - try a Benchmark or Lavry vs. your 828 (or vs. the L2) and call me in the morning...

As for AD converters making less of a difference - try a Benchmark or Lavry vs. your 828 (or vs. the L2) and call me in the morning...




Kubi
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Kubilay Uner
http://kubilayuner.com
MacPro 2x2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon, 20GB RAM; OS 10.9.5; DP9.01; MOTU 2408mk3 & MIDI Express 128 w/latest drivers
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Kubilay Uner
http://kubilayuner.com
MacPro 2x2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon, 20GB RAM; OS 10.9.5; DP9.01; MOTU 2408mk3 & MIDI Express 128 w/latest drivers