what's going to work with dp 8 what's not?

[toodamnhip]

I've been banging on the memory ceiling for awhile and ended up springing for Vienna Ensemble Pro to move plugs out of the DP address space. It works for both 64 and 32 bit plugins (two different servers). I've started putting all my instruments in it.

So if you gotta have a solution - there it is.

I actually think a nice solution would be for DP to add plugins servers and always run them outside of DP. This would make the main app more stable. Even just doing a 32-bit version would be cool.

One word of advise is saving pre sets.
A user will most likely have to save the pre set of any given multi or plug in using DP 7.After, move to DP 8, run the 32 bit VE Pro, load the VI and its pre set.

[zed]

This thread does not seem to list very many plugins which are not yet 64-bit. I suppose as people get their copies of DP8 we will learn more about this.

I just discovered another one of my favorite plugins which is not 64-bit:

AudioEase's Speakerphone

Altiverb is now 64-bit, but AudioEase seems to be taking their time and being non-commital about when Speakerphone will become 64-bit. This is another plugin that I use all the time.

To recap, my current list of important plugins I use that are not compatible are:

SampleTank 2
SoundToys Native Bundle
Speakerphone
Abbey Road Plugins
Classik Studio Reverb (from IK Multimedia)

I hope that this list shrinks at least as fast as it grows.

[kgdrum]

My primary offenders that need 64bit updating would be,UAD,AAS,IK(Amplitude is 64bit) & SoundToys.
They should all get there sooner or later but in the meantime you can always run in 32 bit,render to audio and than go back to 64bit.

It's a bit of a pain but I like knowing in a strange way that developers need to catch up to MOTU for a change.

[labman]

Zed, those are the plugs we need to see 64 bit too. But altiverb and 64 bits with the MAS version wont work correct??? I believe you have to use the AU, which tosses out all our presaved MAS presets.

[kgdrum]

Just updated and installed FXpansion Synth Squad beta,which is 64bit.
Tech support said its reliable and it passed AU inspection easily.


come on UA,SoundToys,AAS,URS and IK.
I want you in 64bit glory!

;--)

[zed]

Abbey Road Plugins responded to my e-mail stating a commitment to releasing a 64-bit version of their plugins and the resolution of a minor issue which I had mentioned. No promise on the release date, but from their responsiveness I suspect that the plugins won't be too far behind.

[frankf]

Here's a list of what opened for me in DP8 in 64 bit mode on my Mac Pro 3,1 (32 bit Kernal). I did not load these up or tax them.
All latest revs
Ivory 2
Kontakt 4,5
Play
Aria
Stylus RMX
Omnisphere
All NI Komplete 8 VIs
Wave Arts Trackplug
Wave Arts Masterverb
Altiverb 7 (AU)
VIenna Ensemble Pro
Assume will work after update: Metric Halo Channel Strip 3
Waves v9
-what won't work and I will have to run in VEP 32 bit:
Korg Legacy and DE
Mach 5 v2 (I don't own v3)

I'll post more as I do more testing.
Frank

[frankf]

Tapatalk is telling me to stop posting? Can't delete only modify.

[frankf]

Sorry, done in by Tapatalk

[MIDI Life Crisis]

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[toodamnhip]

Zed, those are the plugs we need to see 64 bit too. But altiverb and 64 bits with the MAS version wont work correct??? I believe you have to use the AU, which tosses out all our presaved MAS presets.

run in 32 bit, save the pre sets in the altiverb proprietary library, not in the dp library. Then, you you go to 64 bit, the pre sets will be in altiverb's library. I have had the same problems with izotop ozone 5. It pissed me off. It was soo convenient to save in DP's pre set libraries as I under stood the archetecture. Each plug in beyond that has it's own way of saving pre sets but it is probably a good idea for us all to learn each plugs pre set archetecture and never again save in dp's libraries.

[zed]

Oh oh... another one...

I decided to work on one of my projects tonight that utilizes fabulous Sitar instrument I am using is from a NI Kore Library that I purchased a few years ago. North India, I think it is called.

Kore 2 is a 32-bit application/plugin and I believe NI discontinued it, if I am not mistaken. So my go-to Sitar library is now looking like it will not make the transition.

I think I am going to be spending most of my time working with DP8 in 32-bit mode for a long time. There are so many situations in which I am going to be stuck.

If anyone knows how a Kore 2 Library can be utilized outside of the Kore Player, please let me know. Maybe NI has made the latest version of Kontakt able to read Kore libraries? That would be great if it were true.

[toodamnhip]

I am interested to hear if working in DP 32 bit mode is resulting in any efficiency improvements over DP 7?

[jpmason]

Any of you lucky guys tried BFD2 with DP8 .... not sure if BFD2 "does" 64bit?

Also did I read it correctly that Mach 5 V2 is not 64bit compatible?

I still have at least another week and a half to wait in wet old England for my "turn" with DP8....but boy do I appreciate the "guinea pig" work you guys are putting in right now...

[zed]

Any of you lucky guys tried BFD2 with DP8 .... not sure if BFD2 "does" 64bit?

BFD2 is 64-bit! Make sure you've downloaded the latest version from FXpansion.