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Re: 64 bit right around the corner...this spring!

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Perhaps now i'm confused... do i need to boot my Mac differently (64bit) to get the 64 bit benefit even though i use VE Pro in 64 bit Server mode?
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rpmusic wrote:Just finished watching a NAMM video on "SCOREcast Online" interviewing Matt LaPoint from MOTU...paraphrasing; they were hoping to have a 64bit version for the show but didn't quite make it but will be available soon.
When I watched that video, I heard an estimation of spring for MachFive 3, but only sometime "this year" for 64-bit DP.
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Re: 64 bit right around the corner...this spring!

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hrw wrote:Perhaps now i'm confused... do i need to boot my Mac differently (64bit) to get the 64 bit benefit even though i use VE Pro in 64 bit Server mode?
No. There is no reason for the average user to ever boot their Mac in 64 bit mode. You can take full advantage of 64 bit apps and plugins, including the benefits of 64 bit memory addressing, without ever booting your Mac in a a special manner.

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Re: 64 bit right around the corner...this spring!

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carrythebanner wrote:
rpmusic wrote:Just finished watching a NAMM video on "SCOREcast Online" interviewing Matt LaPoint from MOTU...paraphrasing; they were hoping to have a 64bit version for the show but didn't quite make it but will be available soon.
When I watched that video, I heard an estimation of spring for MachFive 3, but only sometime "this year" for 64-bit DP.
Exactly. That's the way I heard it as well. I'd love for it to be out this spring, but I wouldn't doubt it if it was pushed back to early 2012. Does anyone have any inside info on DP64 and when we can start looking for it?

I'm sort of in the middle right now. I could use the extra power and I am considering getting Plogue Bidule installed, but if the 64 bit version of DP comes out soonish, I will save my money and just wait for that.
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carrythebanner wrote:
rpmusic wrote:Just finished watching a NAMM video on "SCOREcast Online" interviewing Matt LaPoint from MOTU...paraphrasing; they were hoping to have a 64bit version for the show but didn't quite make it but will be available soon.
When I watched that video, I heard an estimation of spring for MachFive 3, but only sometime "this year" for 64-bit DP.
Right. The Subject line for this thread is incorrect. In the the video he says Mach5 may be ready for spring, but he was very clear in saying "sometime this year" for 64bit DP, which could mean anything. It's not even ready to preview at NAMM! It's definitely not "right around the corner".
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Okay, before I start getting "bashed" for saying "right around the corner" (Jeez, tough crowd :D ) I was basing that "opinion" on his statement of saying "users can expect to see it this year" and "look for updates for DP coming adding 64 bit support." So, yes, you're absolutely correct that this could mean 2012 or 2020. but being the eternal optimist, I would like to think that they wouldn't say anything about 64 if they weren't pretty close...

You can bash me when 2012 rolls around and we still don't have 64bit :D
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Didn't he also say (basing this on memory, haven't seen the clip in a bit) that they tried to have it ready to show at NAMM? Which could imply that they have at least gotten as far as almost being ready to bring it to NAMM. Which could very well mean that it'll be ready the first half of the year at least with some luck. MOTU has been keeping a pretty fast pace with DP lately after all... Trying to stay optimistic here too ;-)
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FutureLegends wrote:Didn't he also say (basing this on memory, haven't seen the clip in a bit) that they tried to have it ready to show at NAMM? Which could imply that they have at least gotten as far as almost being ready to bring it to NAMM. Which could very well mean that it'll be ready the first half of the year at least with some luck. MOTU has been keeping a pretty fast pace with DP lately after all... Trying to stay optimistic here too ;-)
I'm with FutureLegend on this one. Hopefully +1!
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btw, just changed the subject header to this post to a question mark....maybe this will make it a bit more palatable :D
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When I boot in 64 bit on my MAC I still can run 32 bit programs they just run on one 1/2 of the bits as I understand it. Why does the plug-ins not do the same is it some thing to do with the host program DP?
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GlennO wrote:[...]There is no reason for the average user to ever boot their Mac in 64 bit mode. You can take full advantage of 64 bit apps and plugins, including the benefits of 64 bit memory addressing, without ever booting your Mac in a a special manner.[...]
Thanks for posting, Glenn. This subject is chinese to me.
Do you mean that whenever DP will be 64 bits, I will still boot as usual, as long as all my plugins are 64 bits ?
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Re: 64 bit right around the corner...this spring!

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GlennO wrote:
hrw wrote:Perhaps now i'm confused... do i need to boot my Mac differently (64bit) to get the 64 bit benefit even though i use VE Pro in 64 bit Server mode?
No. There is no reason for the average user to ever boot their Mac in 64 bit mode. You can take full advantage of 64 bit apps and plugins, including the benefits of 64 bit memory addressing, without ever booting your Mac in a a special manner.

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My new 12-core defaults to 64.
Is there any reason the average user to want to change this (besides my Turbo Mouse, MouseWorks driver not working)?
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Tim wrote:
GlennO wrote:
hrw wrote:Perhaps now i'm confused... do i need to boot my Mac differently (64bit) to get the 64 bit benefit even though i use VE Pro in 64 bit Server mode?
No. There is no reason for the average user to ever boot their Mac in 64 bit mode. You can take full advantage of 64 bit apps and plugins, including the benefits of 64 bit memory addressing, without ever booting your Mac in a a special manner.

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My new 12-core defaults to 64.
Is there any reason the average user to want to change this (besides my Turbo Mouse, MouseWorks driver not working)?
No real reason to change to boot into 32 bit kernel. What I think Glenn was getting at was there's no reason to boot into 64 bit kernel if you already boot into 32 bit. I have a Mid 2010 Mac Mini (the latest one) that I have default booting into 64 bit and every program I run whether 64 bit (Photoshop CS5) or 32 bit (Corel Painter 11; I think MS Office for Mac is also 32 bit) runs okay. I haven't put DP6 on this machine yet as it resides comfortably on my ancient G4 1.67 GHz PB.
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Tim wrote:My new 12-core defaults to 64.
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Would be great to have DP step up to 64-bit native on OS X. Logic started the ball rolling, now Cubase has gone 64-bit on Mac. DP is left behind in this department. It's mostly in consideration of loading large virtual instruments. I have colleagues using DP even with the most advanced "tweaks" like using VE Pro and memory servers, etc. And still sessions are crashing due to running into the RAM limitations.
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