64 bit right around the corner...this spring?

[rpmusic]

Just finished watching a NAMM video on "SCOREcast Online" interviewing Matt LaPoint from MOTU...paraphrasing; they were hoping to have a 64bit version for the show but didn't quite make it but will be available soon.

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This is GREAT news!

[malditoyanki]

Exciting...but will be useless for me personally until all my waves, soundtoys, audio damage plugs etc. also go 64. I'm just stoked that DP 7 is damn stable!!!

[silkytom]

This may be a really stupid question but...

...what does 64 bit actually bring us?

[Prime Mover]

Mostly it just eliminates the RAM cap and allows DP to access more than 2GB. That's huge. But also optimized 64bit code running on a 64bit OS & processor just runs faster. No new features (obviously) but the biggest feature in this field is power, so that's great news.

[silkytom]

Ah, I see. Thanks.

Power's definitely good, but I'm not sure I'd be needing it.

[David Polich]

Wouldn't all plug-ins have to be 64-bit to run inside a 64-bit version
of DP?

[rpmusic]

I'm also a WAVES user, but unfortunately I wouldn't hold my breath...although (IMO), the best plug-ins out there, they tend to "march to their own beat." That being said, I have to think that they are at least in the developmental stage of getting all of their plugs ready...time will tell.

In the mean time, I'll look at mastering plugs like T-Racks (also 64bit this spring) and Ozone 4, which is already 64 bit. They're not WAVES but sound great and will be definitely worth using to have DP7 running in 64 bit!

btw, if anyone else is using any mastering plug-ins that will/are 64 bit let me know - I'm open to possibilities at this point.

r

[VitcoMusic]

Now if we were all smart, then we'd buy shares in the companies that make RAM, and have plenty left over to buy all the RAM we need after our stocks go through the roof.

I've never been able to do this in the past because I spent everything on gear first, like that DX7 I got in 1984 for full list price (2k).

DV

[mhschmieder]

The 25th anniversary edition of SOS last fall had an article that listed 64-bit compatibility, at that time. Already there were few hold-outs.

I thought Sound Toys had gone 64-bits?

I also need to check whether BIAS Peak Pro 7 is 64-bits, as I've been too busy to take the risk of trying it yet (I feel guilty, but my checklist of six things to verify is not likely to be high on the fix-it list anyway). There are some plugs I have to use in WaveEditor instead as peak 6 won't load the GUI for any of my 64-bit plugs like Spectrasonics.

[cowtothesky]

Wouldn't all plug-ins have to be 64-bit to run inside a 64-bit version
of DP?

I would also like to know this. I'm hoping that a 64-bit version of DP would also allow older plugins to work.

[Prime Mover]

It's just inconceivable to me that MOTU would release a version of their program that would inadvertently knock-out a large swath of user's plugins. They will have to include 32 bit emulation. For one thing, even if you did have all the 64 bit versions of a plugin, older projects that use 32 bit versions would be crippled. I do wish that some companies like NI and EW would include the option to switch one of their plugins to a newer version, without having to manually go through and duplicate your settings. Last night I was trying to switch a project over to use Kontakt 4 instead of 3, and there was no straightforward way of doing it. When 64 bit DP arrives, we're going to be doing that a lot. Unfortunately, I don't think that's something that MOTU can control, it's up to the individual plugin developers.

[SixStringGeek]

Ah, I see. Thanks.

Power's definitely good, but I'm not sure I'd be needing it.

Already I can't open Ivory II and Trillian in the same project. I run out of memory. The current memory constraints are feeling pretty tight to me.

64-bit is cool - what about all my legacy 32-bit VI's? The ones that aren't going to get updated (B4 II for instance)?

[GlennO]

I do wish that some companies like NI and EW would include the option to switch one of their plugins to a newer version, without having to manually go through and duplicate your settings. Last night I was trying to switch a project over to use Kontakt 4 instead of 3, and there was no straightforward way of doing it. When 64 bit DP arrives, we're going to be doing that a lot.

Spectrasonics 32 and 64 bit plugins are interchangeable. Actually, I've never heard of a 64 bit plugin that wasn't interchangeable with the 32 bit version, including Kontakt. So, no, that won't be a problem when 64 bit DP arrives.

Glenn O
Spectrasonics

[hrw]

I do wish that some companies like NI and EW would include the option to switch one of their plugins to a newer version, without having to manually go through and duplicate your settings. Last night I was trying to switch a project over to use Kontakt 4 instead of 3, and there was no straightforward way of doing it. When 64 bit DP arrives, we're going to be doing that a lot.

Spectrasonics 32 and 64 bit plugins are interchangeable. Actually, I've never heard of a 64 bit plugin that wasn't interchangeable with the 32 bit version, including Kontakt. So, no, that won't be a problem when 64 bit DP arrives.

Glenn O
Spectrasonics

That's what i thought...!?

[SixStringGeek]

Spectrasonics 32 and 64 bit plugins are interchangeable. Actually, I've never heard of a 64 bit plugin that wasn't interchangeable with the 32 bit version, including Kontakt. So, no, that won't be a problem when 64 bit DP arrives.

Glenn O
Spectrasonics

Yes, well you guys are well ahead of the curve.

Apart from your three wonderplugs, kontakt is the only other VI I have that presents itself in a 64 bit host.

I'm not clear that I can run 32-bit'ers in a 64 bit process (I'm pretty sure I can't) so I'm still trying to figure out how to drag my golden oldies into the brave new world.