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Re: Bundles mess

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Gabe S. wrote:Ultimately, I think it's reasonable for users to ask for a fix from MOTU regarding this issue. This problem can kill a mix very easily if you didn't realize a Bundle assignment disappeared. And it creates unnecessary question marks every time you open a session.
Hey Gabe, I hear you. I'm really worn out with this problem and sadly enough, I've gotten USED to it. Part of my workflow has become going in and resetting the damn bundles most every time I open a project. I'm going to submit another email to MOTU so we can make the chorus bigger.. you're right, if enough of us complain, they'll make it a top priority.

I think a lot of the techs at MOTU simply don't create templates as massive as some of us do, and so even if they run across a problem like this, it's a minor inconvenience for them.

Oh and Gabe, thanks for all the hard work rebuilding your giant template- we have indeed one more piece of the puzzle and there appears to be somewhat of a workaround with the "stationary" trick. But still, MOTU needs to understand that this is a serious problem. If I know they get it, I'll be glad to be patient and wait for a fix.

Sorry for :deadhorse:

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Re: Bundles mess

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I have a large project that I have been reconstructing due to computer and VEP upgrade.
It is now loading the Kontakt and VEP extra outs OK.
I deleted any unused bundles. Perhaps this helped. All limbs are now crossed whenever I start the computers.

If I make a template from it however, those extra bundles get corrupted.
I've tried loading in the bundles from my "good" project but they also get corrupted.

So I am now, as a workaround, loading my good project and then saving a copy of it when I start a new track. Actually I save about ten and stockpile them.

Can I encourage everyone to report the problem to MOTU
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Re: Bundles mess

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nickysnd wrote:Every time I open up a project I find my bundles messed up. I fix them, I reassign the instruments' ins and outs, but then when I open the project next time the bundles are all messed up again. And again. Every time I have to reassign the inputs and the outputs. Never had this problem in DP5.

Basically what happens is, the ins/out assignments disappear, or get assigned to some other ins and outs. Worse, some bundles don't even hold together in pairs. For example, when I want to (re)assign the New Bundle Kontakt 3-4, I see that the Kontakt bundles begin with 4-5, which is absurd. Then when I check the Instruments in the Bundles, the Kontakt 3 out (which previously was the L in the L-R pair called Kontakt 3-4) was bumped at the end of the list. Similar happens with the Stylus bundles pairs, also Omnisphere's. Something is deeply wrong here. Hope what I'm saying makes sense. Is there a way to set the bundles right once and for all?

Any suggestion will be appreciated.
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Hope this gets fixed it is becoming increasingly annoying and slowing down my workflow to constantly have to re adjust them.
Please MOTU, fixy uppy.
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Re: Bundles mess

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Please MOTU FIX this, I have to Re-Assign my Kontakt Aux outputs every time I open a song, and as someone mentioned above, if you forgot to do this, you could mix a song without notice that maybe one synth or drum is off!!

PLEASE MOTU, its time to fix this.

Best regards.

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Re: Bundles mess

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delcosmos wrote:

PLEASE MOTU, its time to fix this.


Or how 'bout:
Please, MOTU... value your loyal customers enough to acknowledge that you are aware that this problem exists, and that you might just care enough to look into fixing it.
We can handle a little dialog here: we're not f'ing idiots!
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Please everyone that is reporting this make sure to put in a tech support request to MOTU. Although we know that Magic Dave posts here frequently and probably others from MOTU check in here now and then, I don't believe I've ever seen an actual public acknowledgment of a bug on this board (naturally I stand to be corrected). So don't just rely on venting on MOTUnation for it to be looked at by MOTU.
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Re: Bundles mess

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I already sent a tech note to MOTU about this long time ago, since version 7 and never got a response.

I really hope they fix this in the next update because I feel so frustrated everytime I open a song and have to re-set all my VI bundles. :banghead:
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Re: Bundles mess

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Just added a tech link. I'm really getting disgusted that this has not been fixed or even acknowledged.

DS
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http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... =1&t=43680" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Yep, but I gotcha beat:

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... =1&t=40360" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is when I first discovered it.
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Re: Bundles mess

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Killahurts wrote:
Yep, but I gotcha beat:

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... =1&t=40360" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is when I first discovered it.
Haha.
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Re: Bundles mess

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I'm confident that MOTU will fix this in next update. They've been releasing updates very often, hope this will be fixed in the next one.

Best.

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Re: Bundles mess

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delcosmos wrote:I'm confident that MOTU will fix this in next update. They've been releasing updates very often, hope this will be fixed in the next one.

Best.

delcosmos.
I think they will too. When you think about it, Bundles is a GREAT feature, in and of itself. They certainly want it to work reliably.
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Re: Bundles mess

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Killahurts wrote:When you think about it, Bundles is a GREAT feature, in and of itself. They certainly want it to work reliably.
A great feature? That's putting it lightly. Bundles is a mechanism to link objects in an application to the external world, and this is one of the most basic and essential features of any program, going back IBM JCL DD cards 50 years ago.
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Re: Bundles mess

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Well OK. I guess I just like the way it's implemented in DP.
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