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If there was such a policy I can't remember it now. Everyone knows who Behringer is. They're that company whose R&D division is called "Mackie." 

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No politics. No religion. No Behringer.
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LOL James!James Steele wrote:If there was such a policy I can't remember it now. Everyone knows who Behringer is. They're that company whose R&D division is called "Mackie."
Thats why the name has "ringer" in the middle... like "deadringer" as in "indistinguishable." Look at the company logo; you'll see a bell. And early ads emphasized the pronunciation.
Its all a joke folks. At Mackie's expense.
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They now have the Akai MPK88 at the Guitar Center in Concord CA, so I tried it out tonight for feel. It wasn't hooked up to anything, so I'm unable to provide a complete picture of how its action feels in the context of triggering piano patches or whatever.
Just playing the keybed silently, it has some heft to it and a good amount of springiness and escapement. Also, the keys are textured for confident fingering, vs. slick. It is VERY well-built, but without being able to play it with some sounds being triggered, it is hard for me to say if it is a step above Yamaha's under-$1000 Digital Pianos and/or S90/MOTIF series, or even a step above the Studiologic VMK188plus.
One thing is for certain though: this is currently the most full-featured and easy to use 88-key weighted keybed MIDI controller on the market today, and one of the two or three best-built as well. The trigger pads, sliders, and rotary knobs are a great addition also.
Just playing the keybed silently, it has some heft to it and a good amount of springiness and escapement. Also, the keys are textured for confident fingering, vs. slick. It is VERY well-built, but without being able to play it with some sounds being triggered, it is hard for me to say if it is a step above Yamaha's under-$1000 Digital Pianos and/or S90/MOTIF series, or even a step above the Studiologic VMK188plus.
One thing is for certain though: this is currently the most full-featured and easy to use 88-key weighted keybed MIDI controller on the market today, and one of the two or three best-built as well. The trigger pads, sliders, and rotary knobs are a great addition also.
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That's interesting. What kind of texture? Are we talking about something like matte versus finish? Or is there actually some kind of pattern on the surface of the keys?mhschmieder wrote:Also, the keys are textured for confident fingering, vs. slick.
It sounds undesirable, but I suppose it might feel good and probably serves certain playing styles well.
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I mean vs. slick, which is slippery and unlike a piano or even organ or harpsichord. There are several ways this might be done, so I'm not sure how they did it.
Yamaha's new MOTIF XF 8 also has textured keys (and a different keybed and action than the ES
. Competition is good; more vendors are moving to textured keys as they realize they could lose sales on that point alone.
Someone on the keyboard forum pointed out that the Akai MPK-88 doesn't have zones, unfortunately, which is also the fatal flaw of the Studiologic VMK188plus that I sold when I got the Kurzweil PC3x.
So, it seems this is more designed for the studio than live use. But I would say other than for having just a single MIDI zone, it is the best 88-key controller on the market right now, by a long shot, due to ergonomics, construction, software integration, and keybed.
Yamaha's new MOTIF XF 8 also has textured keys (and a different keybed and action than the ES

Someone on the keyboard forum pointed out that the Akai MPK-88 doesn't have zones, unfortunately, which is also the fatal flaw of the Studiologic VMK188plus that I sold when I got the Kurzweil PC3x.
So, it seems this is more designed for the studio than live use. But I would say other than for having just a single MIDI zone, it is the best 88-key controller on the market right now, by a long shot, due to ergonomics, construction, software integration, and keybed.
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+1 for Kurz PC3-x
I, like many, have tried every last 88-note weighted board out there, and in terms of true piano Sound/feel, Kurzweil pc2-x/3x are the best. I've had the pc2x for 10 years, it's the centerpiece of my studio and my live rig. As soon as I have an extra $2k I'm buying the 3x. You won't better a better piano sample other than heavy VIs.
Also, I've NEVER had a problem with my kurzweil. It's been dropped more times than I can describe and lived in a terrible moldy basement for a few years.
I, like many, have tried every last 88-note weighted board out there, and in terms of true piano Sound/feel, Kurzweil pc2-x/3x are the best. I've had the pc2x for 10 years, it's the centerpiece of my studio and my live rig. As soon as I have an extra $2k I'm buying the 3x. You won't better a better piano sample other than heavy VIs.
Also, I've NEVER had a problem with my kurzweil. It's been dropped more times than I can describe and lived in a terrible moldy basement for a few years.
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