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Re: Suggestions for next DP update

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benmrx wrote:Here's my suggestions (I havn't gone through this thread, so my apologies if some of these have already been covered).......... I'm sure some of these will come as no surprise to those of you who have read any of my posts...

1) First and foremost... a toggle to switch the grid between relative and absolute modes
2) Ability to open the same plugin across multiple tracks at once
3) Ability to create the same send assignment across multiple tracks at once
4) A "split notes" command that works on selections that are NOT quantized
5) Individual colors for regions
6) If #5 above were added, then also give us the ability to select all regions of the same color
7) The ability to have preroll without a predefined punch out point
8) Something similar to the "Transform Automation" tool from Presonus' Studio One DAW (Youtube it, it's pretty awsome!)
9) The ability to have DP bounce all selected tracks and/or busses to individual files to a folder (again, a very nice Studio One feature)
10) Maybe I've missed this one, and it already exists, but the ability to invert a selection
11) Ability to select tracks in the mixer window
12) Ability to have "right click" assignable to it's own tool (there could be a switch in the preferences if you'de rather have the contextual menus)
13) Again, maybe I've missed it, but a simple "duplicate" command that will duplicate whatever is selected... slightly like the "repeat" option, but more streamlined.
14) The ability to have the "shift selection" command reference the sync point instead of the left edge of the region/soundbite
15) Ability to send a region to the playhead... again, either based in the regions sync point or it's left edge.
16) Ability to change a notes velocity by simply dragging up/down on the note itself by holding down a modifier key in either the sequence, or MIDI editor
17) Take a hint from the "MIDI smart tool" in PT. This is probably the one MIDI thing PT seriously got right.
18) A MUCH more streamlined method of beat detection. Just rip Beat Detective from PT....
19) Elastic Audio as PT calls it.. or Flex Time as Logic calls it... or Warp Markers as Ableton Live calls it.
20) Ability to add custom continuous controllers to the "insert event list" in the MIDI editor
21) A simple '+' button in the preference for "continuous data" to add more than 7 controllers.
22) I belive they might have had this in older versions, but a "quick filter" button in the sequence editor.
23) A simple "Tab to transient" feature in the sequence editor (seems easy enough as they already have the algorithm for detecting transients)
That's a good list. There are some useful suggestions in there.

I'm going to include my long list from a few months back in the next post, just to help with all the "head-hurting". ;-)
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Re: Suggestions for next DP update

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James Steele wrote:
benmrx wrote:...but then there are some basic things I can't do in DP... like split chords that aren't quantized..., that's a biggie for the way I work.
So you mean when you want to split the "bottom two" notes of a chord for example, DP will not recognize notes as a chord unless all the notes in that chord start at exactly the same time? I don't follow. Seems like there ought to be some "slop" allowance there since few people actually plays a chord with ever single not striking EXACTLY at the same time.

Exactly.. unless I'm doing something wrong with the "split notes" command, this was the only way I could get it to work.... which is doubly frustrating as I can't simply drage the ends of the notes.... because the snap/grid feature only works in a "relative" fashion. It slightly renders the function uselss to me, as sometimes I'll play a chord, and have the top 2 notes start 1/8 note after the bass note... or purposefully flam the chord..... which brings me to ANOTHER feature I'de LOVE to see.

24) The exact opposite of the "deflam" plugin.. where you can take a chord that's been quantized, and flam it either by making the top or bottom note happen first.
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Re: Suggestions for next DP update

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Here are my list of improvements from the former DP 8 Wish List thread. But I would be happy to see some of them in DP 7.3. Most of them are just basic enhancements and shouldn't be too complicated to implement. There are two lists with different suggestions, which I still need to merge and review. A few things may have been resolved in DP 7.2. But here they are again:

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WORKFLOW IMPROVEMENTS
• Please add a "Clippings" checkbox in the Shortcuts preferences so that clicking on the Clippings Icon in the Shortcuts palette will result in all clippings windows coming to the front.

• Allow user organization of AU plugins. It would also be nice to be able to create aliases of plugins which would be accessible from within their own folders. It would be convenient to have a plugin folder which housed all the compressors, and another with all the reverbs, etc. This could be in addition to the automatic organization of AUs by the developer name.

• It would be great if "Saved Project" was an action shown in the Undo History. The fact that it currently doesn't include reference of this action makes the Undo History much less useful. I do refer to Undo History often, and wish it would show me when I last saved the project, especially in the context of what I did before and after the save. I know you can't UNDO a save, but neither can you UNDO an open, and it does include that reference.

• It would be great if DP could remember which tracks were play enabled in a track folder, so that if you accidentally (or deliberately) disable the all the tracks (by clicking on the play icon on the track folder) then re-enabling it will result in enabling only the tracks which were previously enabled.

• By the same token, option-clicking the insert menu on the top of each channel strip in the mixing window results in all the inserts being turned off or turned on. It would be nice if DP could remember which inserts may already have been enabled or disabled, so the that option-clicking would turn them all off, but option-clicking again would turn on the ones which had been previously turned on. Perhaps a different command (like command-option-clicking) could disregard previous settings and just turn them all on or all off.

• Maybe introduce a track by track "turn on color" option in the Track Columns Setup. That way a user could turn on the color of only a select group of tracks being edited and leave the rest black and white. This would make editing projects with large track counts much easier.

• How about a Track selector for the Tracks overview, essentially allowing you to hide tracks (and track folders) that you don't want to see? This would also help immensely when editing projects with large track counts. And it would be so nice not to have to look at track folders which may be filled with discarded tracks, and to eliminate the grey bar that they create in the Tracks Overview by simply hiding them.

• I'm still eager to have additional markers (in different colours, and perhaps stacked vertically) so that you could have one set of markers which mark song sections, another set which has important notes, another set for song lyrics, etc.

• We still need Smarter Selections when it comes to Loops. With both MIDI and Audio loops, DP should make an educated guess that a loop which starts in bar 5 should not become part of a selection if you select bar 4, even if the loop start point is preceeding the bar by a few ticks. Smart selection of notes has worked well for years. Those same principles should also apply to loops. Often selecting stuff before a loop selects the loop, and then selecting the bars which are looped ignores the loop when you copy it.

• In the exact same vein, we need Smart Selections for Audio clips. Currently, if you select bars where the audio begins a little bit before the start of the bar, that audio clip will not be included in the selection. DP should understand (as with Smart Selections of MIDI) that Audio with edges that are very close to the beginning of a bar should be included or discluded from a selection based on an intelligent assessment of which bar the body of that audio belongs to.

• In the same way that you can add multiple instrument tracks at the same time (using Project > Add Track > Add instruments), it would also be useful to be able to add multiple Aux tracks at the same time.

GRAPHIC EDITOR ENHANCEMENTS
• Adjusting MIDI note velocities in the Sequence Editor results in the background horizontal grid disappearing (which representing the black keys on the keyboard). This is kind of annoying. This grid should remain the same whichever of those elements are being edited. Perhaps the user could have a button to decide whether or not to turn off or on the horizontal grid for that track. Furthermore, it is actually easier to edit velocites with that grid present since you can easily compare note velocities with other MIDI notes that are presently showing in the edit window. So this "feature" is not only distracting but instead of assisting in editing note velocities it actually takes away vital reference information.

• In the MIDI graphic editor, the notes from numerous MIDI tracks can be shown at once, but the velocity of the notes is only shown for the actively selected track (i.e. the track with the pencil icon in the Track Selector). How about an easier option for selecting the active track so that it would be easier to edit the note velocities of any track without having to go to the Track Selector? My suggestion would be option-clicking on a MIDI note to automatically make THAT track the active editable track in the Sequence Editor. This would reduce the need to visit the Track Selector, and make velocity editing much more efficient.

• Using Command-Up and Down Arrows allows you to vertically resize all of the tracks in the sequence editor using Command-up and Command-down arrows, it might be useful if it would only apply to the track currently being edited (i.e. the one with the flashing edit cursor). Combining the option key with those commands could result in adjusting all the tracks the same (as is done right now without the option key).

• In sequence editor when moving audio soundbites or MIDI notes, there are blue boundary lines in the ruler which show the start and end points of the item. With MIDI notes you can click on the note and see the blue lines in the ruler, but with Audio this does not work. You have to actually start moving the audio for the blue boundary lines to kick in. Please make it so the audio behaves like the MIDI in this respect.

• I would love to see an option added to the Sequence Editor whereby all the MIDI could appear in one track (as it does in the MIDI Editor). It would be really nice to work with Audio Tracks in the Sequence Editor, right alongside MIDI which is all displayed in a single overlayed track. While this could be accomplished by displaying both the MIDI and Sequence Editors at the same time, it would be more elegant if the MIDI could be combined in the Sequence Editor, allowing the Tracks Overview to be the second window included in the consolidated window.

• Ever since I started using DP, I have always wished that when working in the Graphic Editors, the wiper position could be changed by clicking anywhere in the graphic display, and not having to specifically click in the ruler. Back in the days of SVP, you could click anywhere in the graphic window and the wiper would move to that location. Having to mouse up to the ruler is just an added bit of precision which seems unnecessary.

COSMETIC CHANGES
• Please include preference which allows you to change the grey folder bars which appear in the Tracks Overview back to the way they used to be displayed (as grey bars only). The new bars which show data of what is stored in closed or open folders is very distracting and makes the TO window look cluttered and busy, which interupts the workflow rather than aids it. Some might not agree, so a preference to display it either way would be great.

• If the above preference is not added, then at least make it so that the grey bar only shows all the gibberish when the track folder is closed, and not when it is opened.

• An option to display tracks in the Tracks Overview so that they look the way that they looked back in DP 4 and 5 (with solid bars of colour on top of the tracks, and not pastel colours).

PLUGIN IMPROVEMENTS
• Improvements in All MOTU plugins (part 1) -- include a "mix" knob to allow mixing of the dry signal and the signal processed by the plugin

• Improvements in All MOTU plugins (part 2) -- include a trim knob to allow the processed signal to be increased or decreased before it leaves the plugin. Would especially like to see this on MWEQ.

BUGS TO BE FIXED
• Aside from the desire for Smarter Selections of loops (mentioned above), there is an actual bug with regards to the current selection of loops (even if the loops do not preceed the start of the bar). The MIDI loops work as they should--if you loop some bars and then select those bars, the loop will be moved and copied with the bars. This is NOT true in the Audio loops, however. With Audio loops, DP makes the mistake of not selecting the loop when you select the bars being looped. And consequently it does select the loop when you select the a bar which preceeds that loop. So at the very least, Audio Loop selections need to be fixed so that the start point of the loop is understood to be within the bars being looped.

• there are some serious issues when using the Audio Plugins preference. Strange things happen, like disabling all the MAS plugins results in ALL the AU plugins not being loaded. And sometimes disabled plugins are no longer shown in the Audio Plugins window, which means that you cannot reactivate them without restarting DP.

• Dragging inserts from one slot to another, and UNDOing the addition or deletion of an insert can sometimes result in DP suddenly quitting.

• In the Events List window a space is needed between the marker icon and the name of the marker. This is just cosmetic, but it doesn't look very good.

• When opening an Autosave version of a DP project, after a crash for instance, it opens the document with the Control Panel closed, and none of the keyboard commands will work. Opening the Control Panel resolves the issue, but this can be very disconcerting. The first time I experienced this I thought the project was corrupt.

OTHER IDEAS AND POSSIBLITIES
• How about some kind of a Memory Management feature similar to what NI created with Kontakt? If DP could access memory outside of itself, and store samples into RAM, then it could access more than the 3.5GB allowable by a 32-bit application, and would reduce the loading time for a project after a sudden quit.

• Track Comping tool for MIDI. It might be nice to extend the Track Comping features to work for MIDI tracks the way that they do for Audio.

• A lock feature to prevent vertical scrolling in the MIDI Editor window. Clicking on a little lock button would prevent the work area from scrolling vertically when you are drawing a marquee to select MIDI notes. I often adjust that editor window to display all the MIDI notes I want to look at and work with, but then when I try to select a group of notes which include some near the bottom or top of the window, automatic scrolling takes place focusing my workspace onto a range of the keyboard where there are no notes to work with, and requiring me to re-adjust the window again. The same thing happens in the Sequence Editor, and so it would be nice to have locks for each MIDI track in there. When you are already zeroed in on a desired keyboard range (like notes of the kick and snare, for example) then auto scrolling is just an inconvenience.

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MORE SUGGESTIONS (from PREVIOUS REQUEST LIST, Submitted 2007/2008):

• Tab to Transients option within the Sequence Editor. And since it doesn't make much sense to Tab through transients which are buried beneath the topmost soundbites, only the audio on top should be assessed. To allow users to assign a command to this feature, we need options in the Selection Commands for the following:
--Move Insertion Point to Next Event
--Move Insertion Point to Previous Event

• Ability to make pencil edits in the Sequence Editor in order to avoid the necessity to work in Soundbites window.

• Would love to see an "Apply Last Effect" option (something similar to the feature in Audacity or Photoshop) where DP remembers the last plugin effect applied (e.g. Trim -3db, or Reverse Audio, etc.) and puts a link at the very top of the Audio menu (or in a contextual menu). Then you don't have to search for the plugin again... it is all ready to be applied again. If this could be setup to remember the last three or four plugins used, that would make things even easier... or perhaps there could be a recently applied effects palette?

• It would be nice to have librarian ability to individually name the outputs of each VI, so that instead of patches showing up as MIDI channel numbers they could be named (e.g. ST-Upright Piano, Fab Four-Hofner, BFD-Ringo Kit, etc.)

• Separate Take Comments, giving the option for different comments for each take (with perhaps a little on/off button on the comments to determine whether the comments show up on all takes of the track, or whether each track automatically gives you a fresh slate to type in new comments). Sometimes comments are specific to a take rather than to the track as a whole.

• An option to colour code sections of song between markers (probably most easily implimented by allowing colourized markers (user specified) which can colour the background of the tracks window until a different coloured marker (or non-coloured/standard yellow marker) is placed. This would allow a quick visual reference for the parts of a song when viewed in the Tracks Window.

• Add ability to move markers in the MIDI graphic editor. You can lock 'em but you can't seem to move 'em.

• It would be nice to have a more streamlined way to move or copy things from one track to another within the MIDI or Sequence editors. (This got a lot of discussion on Motunation recently).

• When "Duplicating Track Layout" in the chunks window, it would be great if the TEMPO and METRE of the source chunk was also duplicated. Currently it is not.

• A column to enable and disable chunks, similar to the check and uncheck button in iTunes. The chunk, will not be fully disabled and will play if you manually select it, but if you have pressed the "Chunk Chain" button to listen through your chunks, DP will only play the enabled chunks in succession instead of all the chunks. Since chunks can be used for storage of alternate or abandoned ideas, and often variations of the arrangement which you might not want to listen to in chain mode, it would be great to have this disable option.

• There should be some sort of auto ID for chunks (either letters or numbers), so that they are labelled for future reference. This way, if you are working with a copy of an earlier chunk, you can mention in the chunk comments (or in the chunk title) that "this chunk is an adaptation of chunk x". Currently, I manually give IDs to my chunks so that I can keep track of what is what.

• While we're at it, it would also be nice to have the option to add columns to the chunks window which would display the date created and/or the date last modified.

• To make track clippings easier to create, tracks should not require data on them to be copied to a clipping... it would be great to create clippings which may only have the track name, the inputs and the outputs. If necessary, DP could automatically add something to an empty track which would count as being some form of data (like an centre pan start automation or something).

• Scale/Stretch Time Tool so that you could select MIDI notes and by clicking on a point in the edit window and then dragging you could scale notes visually without have to go through the scale dialog.

• Guitar Chords track would be cool. Just like putting a tempo change in the conductor track you could insert a guitar chord image to insert at a particular spot which would also show up on the QuickScribe pages. Could come with basic guitar chords and the ability for the user to define additional chord shapes.
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Re: Suggestions for next DP update

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zed wrote:Ever since I started using DP, I have always wished that when working in the Graphic Editors, the wiper position could be changed by clicking anywhere in the graphic display, and not having to specifically click in the ruler. Back in the days of SVP, you could click anywhere in the graphic window and the wiper would move to that location. Having to mouse up to the ruler is just an added bit of precision which seems unnecessary.

OK.... now my head REALLY hurts!!

However, did you know that you can basically get the behavior you're looking for with the wiper by activating BOTH the "Link Playback to Memory" and "Link Selection to Memory" buttons in the control panel?? It's not EXACTLY.. EXACTLY the same as being able to set the wiper by clicking anywhere,... but it's practically the same.

I use the program Quickeys, and have it set up so that hitting "esc" will toggle both those buttons on/off. It's EXTREMELY usefull!!! Again, I do LOVE DP... slightly like Logic, and think Ableton is pretty cool.. but man,.. IMO, PT really got it right with how the playhead and preroll work. No other DAW (that I've used) has managed to get it as right as they did... which is a slight mystery to me as it's probalby THE most basic feature of any program.
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Re: Suggestions for next DP update

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benmrx wrote:
James Steele wrote:
benmrx wrote:...but then there are some basic things I can't do in DP... like split chords that aren't quantized..., that's a biggie for the way I work.
So you mean when you want to split the "bottom two" notes of a chord for example, DP will not recognize notes as a chord unless all the notes in that chord start at exactly the same time? I don't follow. Seems like there ought to be some "slop" allowance there since few people actually plays a chord with ever single not striking EXACTLY at the same time.

Exactly.. unless I'm doing something wrong with the "split notes" command, this was the only way I could get it to work.... which is doubly frustrating as I can't simply drage the ends of the notes.... because the snap/grid feature only works in a "relative" fashion. It slightly renders the function uselss to me, as sometimes I'll play a chord, and have the top 2 notes start 1/8 note after the bass note... or purposefully flam the chord..... which brings me to ANOTHER feature I'de LOVE to see.

24) The exact opposite of the "deflam" plugin.. where you can take a chord that's been quantized, and flam it either by making the top or bottom note happen first.
Maybe Shooshie will chime in and he can help. My problem is I'm a long, LONG time DP user and so I'm used to working that way. My fear though is I wouldn't want DP try to become everything to everybody and become less the app it is as every single wish and feature request under the sun is added. Somehow design by mob rule worries me.

Any way, if there were any easy way to have relative snap then I'd be all for it I guess, but it doesn't matter to me. We all do things differently and it's funny how some folks (not you... just reminded by posts I see occasionally) will have some feature that they swear is the absolute "deal breaker" for them and I'll look at that and say "you're kidding me, right? I could care less about that."

It's not that I'm against adding features... the relative grid thing seems cool, although I certainly don't need it badly. Viscerally it just seems that if MOTU just started adding features as the crowd shouted them out without an overall master plan, it could be a bad thing. Further more people who come to DP from a particular app, are going to want it to behave like the app they're used to. I tried Logic for a while and couldn't warm to it... probably because it wasn't DP-like enough for me. I could imagine if I did use it going to Logic User Group the first few days and posting a long list of suggestions to make Logic more like DP and make me more comfortable.

Again... not saying you don't have some good suggestions there. I need to investigate the split notes deal. As I said, I seldom use it and when I do, it's usually just to split out drum parts where it's a particular note, etc.
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zed wrote:• Ever since I started using DP, I have always wished that when working in the Graphic Editors, the wiper position could be changed by clicking anywhere in the graphic display, and not having to specifically click in the ruler. Back in the days of SVP, you could click anywhere in the graphic window and the wiper would move to that location. Having to mouse up to the ruler is just an added bit of precision which seems unnecessary
What about if I want to marquee select a group of MIDI notes in the MIDI graphic editor? How do I do that with the transport following my mouse click? How does DP know whether I want the wiper to jump there or I'm beginning the selection of a note grouping??? Sincerely curious? More modifier keys?
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James Steele wrote:
zed wrote:• Ever since I started using DP, I have always wished that when working in the Graphic Editors, the wiper position could be changed by clicking anywhere in the graphic display, and not having to specifically click in the ruler. Back in the days of SVP, you could click anywhere in the graphic window and the wiper would move to that location. Having to mouse up to the ruler is just an added bit of precision which seems unnecessary
What about if I want to marquee select a group of MIDI notes in the MIDI graphic editor? How do I do that with the transport following my mouse click? How does DP know whether I want the wiper to jump there or I'm beginning the selection of a note grouping??? Sincerely curious? More modifier keys?
James, if you have both "Link Playback to Memory" and "Link Selection to Memory" buttons in the control panel activated, it will only move the playhead based the insertion point, so you can still use the arrow/marquee tool for selecting MIDI notes. This only seems to work in the Sequence editor and Graphic editor. In the Tracks Overview window, using the arrow tool WILL move your playhead position.
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benmrx wrote:
James Steele wrote:
zed wrote:• Ever since I started using DP, I have always wished that when working in the Graphic Editors, the wiper position could be changed by clicking anywhere in the graphic display, and not having to specifically click in the ruler. Back in the days of SVP, you could click anywhere in the graphic window and the wiper would move to that location. Having to mouse up to the ruler is just an added bit of precision which seems unnecessary
What about if I want to marquee select a group of MIDI notes in the MIDI graphic editor? How do I do that with the transport following my mouse click? How does DP know whether I want the wiper to jump there or I'm beginning the selection of a note grouping??? Sincerely curious? More modifier keys?
James, if you have both "Link Playback to Memory" and "Link Selection to Memory" buttons in the control panel activated, it will only move the playhead based the insertion point, so you can still use the arrow/marquee tool for selecting MIDI notes. This only seems to work in the Sequence editor and Graphic editor. In the Tracks Overview window, using the arrow tool WILL move your playhead position.
I don't think I often have those enabled. I'll have to sit in front of DP tomorrow to see what you're talking about. I'm not sure I would care for the behavior to change. When I want to locate somewhere I'll use what we call the "dot trick" around here. On the numerical keypad type the "." then measure number and enter.
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James Steele wrote:Maybe Shooshie will chime in and he can help.

I'de be stoked... I really hope I'm doing something wrong because it's a fairly important aspect to the way I like to work...
My problem is I'm a long, LONG time DP user and so I'm used to working that way. My fear though is I wouldn't want DP try to become everything to everybody and become less the app it is as every single wish and feature request under the sun is added. Somehow design by mob rule worries me.

Any way, if there were any easy way to have relative snap then I'd be all for it I guess, but it doesn't matter to me. We all do things differently and it's funny how some folks (not you... just reminded by posts I see occasionally) will have some feature that they swear is the absolute "deal breaker" for them and I'll look at that and say "you're kidding me, right? I could care less about that."

It's not that I'm against adding features... the relative grid thing seems cool, although I certainly don't need it badly. Viscerally it just seems that if MOTU just started adding features as the crowd shouted them out without an overall master plan, it could be a bad thing. Further more people who come to DP from a particular app, are going to want it to behave like the app they're used to. I tried Logic for a while and couldn't warm to it... probably because it wasn't DP-like enough for me. I could imagine if I did use it going to Logic User Group the first few days and posting a long list of suggestions to make Logic more like DP and make me more comfortable.

Again... not saying you don't have some good suggestions there. I need to investigate the split notes deal. As I said, I seldom use it and when I do, it's usually just to split out drum parts where it's a particular note, etc.
I hear ya... and to be honest.... coming to DP7 where I had DP3 YEARS ago, MOTU has SERIOUSLY amped up the audio editing portion of DP. I mean... IMO, DP is on par with PT in terms of audio flexibility. I almost think the audio editing in DP has surpassed the MIDI!! I just think they havn't done much with the MIDI features because DP is such an old program that started out ONLY doing MIDI. Was it 1985 that "performer" was introduced??? I don't want MOTU to completely revamp the program at all. Just adding a few more options in the preferences pane would give me most of what I'm looking for.
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James Steele wrote:I don't think I often have those enabled. I'll have to sit in front of DP tomorrow to see what you're talking about. I'm not sure I would care for the behavior to change. When I want to locate somewhere I'll use what we call the "dot trick" around here. On the numerical keypad type the "." then measure number and enter.
It's funny, because that was literally theee VERY first thing I searched for in the manual. I'm so used to just clicking in the sequence editor (or in PT land.. the "edit window") and hitting spacebar.
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zed wrote:• Ever since I started using DP, I have always wished that when working in the Graphic Editors, the wiper position could be changed by clicking anywhere in the graphic display, and not having to specifically click in the ruler. Back in the days of SVP, you could click anywhere in the graphic window and the wiper would move to that location. Having to mouse up to the ruler is just an added bit of precision which seems unnecessary
What about if I want to marquee select a group of MIDI notes in the MIDI graphic editor? How do I do that with the transport following my mouse click? How does DP know whether I want the wiper to jump there or I'm beginning the selection of a note grouping??? Sincerely curious? More modifier keys?
It would still be exactly the same as it is now, except that you could do it anywhere in the window.

You currently have to double-click on the ruler in order to move the wiper to a new location. I'm just saying that the double-click should change the wiper location wherever it is done in the editor windows. The selection of MIDI notes and everything else would remain exactly the same, and would not interfere with the wiper position.
benmrx wrote:However, did you know that you can basically get the behavior you're looking for with the wiper by activating BOTH the "Link Playback to Memory" and "Link Selection to Memory" buttons in the control panel?? It's not EXACTLY.. EXACTLY the same as being able to set the wiper by clicking anywhere,... but it's practically the same.
That is a useful behavior, but more limited. I don't want to change the behavior, but only make it something that you can do without moving the mouse far away from where you are working.

This combined with the suggestion which you made allowing MIDI note velocities to be adjusted more easily would mean that there would be a lot less mouse scrolling to editing MIDI (in particular). I believe I could increase my editing efficiency by as much as 125% with those enhancements.
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benmrx wrote: I mean... IMO, DP is on par with PT in terms of audio flexibility..
I know a few people who work professionally in both apps who feel DP is not just on par but better is some aspects.
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James Steele wrote:I don't think I often have those enabled. I'll have to sit in front of DP tomorrow to see what you're talking about. I'm not sure I would care for the behavior to change. When I want to locate somewhere I'll use what we call the "dot trick" around here. On the numerical keypad type the "." then measure number and enter.
It's funny, because that was literally theee VERY first thing I searched for in the manual. I'm so used to just clicking in the sequence editor (or in PT land.. the "edit window") and hitting spacebar.
So you want MY app to feel like YOUR app now? :lol: that way you can feel comfortable and I'll become disoriented. :(
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zed wrote:You currently have to double-click on the ruler in order to move the wiper to a new location. I'm just saying that the double-click should change the wiper location wherever it is done in the editor windows. The selection of MIDI notes and everything else would remain exactly the same, and would not interfere with the wiper position.
Really? You have to double click? I thought when you hover the cursor over the ruler the cursor will change and you locate there with a single click.
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James Steele wrote:
benmrx wrote: I mean... IMO, DP is on par with PT in terms of audio flexibility..
I know a few people who work professionally in both apps who feel DP is not just on par but better is some aspects.
I would really like to see the flexible audio option in DP, though. When editing a track which is not in the pocket, slicing up the audio often leads to popping and clicking issues. If DP could squeeze portions of the audio right before a transient, and allow you to move a waveform without actually splitting the audio, then audio editing could be done without having to introduce the possibility of poorly joined waveforms.
benmrx wrote:Just adding a few more options in the preferences pane would give me most of what I'm looking for.
Amen.
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