DP 6.02 and latency
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- angelvonfrankim
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DP 6.02 and latency
Using DP with VIs or POD Farm has such bad latency that it is unusable. At least the way I am set up. ANyone have any ideas?
Why can't DP work as well as GarageBand?
Why can't DP work as well as GarageBand?
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- kassonica
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Re: DP 6.02 and latency
Umangelvonfrankim wrote:Using DP with VIs or POD Farm has such bad latency that it is unusable. At least the way I am set up. ANyone have any ideas?
Why can't DP work as well as GarageBand?
Do you have a manual?
Do you know HOW to adjust the buffers?
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- angelvonfrankim
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Re: DP 6.02 and latency
Yep. I have a manual.
I set the buffer low (512) and there is still too much latency to be able to accurately trigger Model12 with a USB Keystation.
Is the only thing that helps setting the buffer lower? Any lower and I won't be able to use Liquid Mix.
I set the buffer low (512) and there is still too much latency to be able to accurately trigger Model12 with a USB Keystation.
Is the only thing that helps setting the buffer lower? Any lower and I won't be able to use Liquid Mix.
Just Frank,
( :^ | =
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- kassonica
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Re: DP 6.02 and latency
angelvonfrankim wrote:Yep. I have a manual.
I set the buffer low (512) and there is still too much latency to be able to accurately trigger Model12 with a USB Keystation.
Is the only thing that helps setting the buffer lower? Any lower and I won't be able to use Liquid Mix.
Could you track without the Liquid mix?
It's not really DP then is it?
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- Mr_Clifford
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Re: DP 6.02 and latency
512 is generally not low enough for percussion stuff. I'm happy with 256, but some prefer 128. It takes a bit of juggling, but you're best off doing the programming with as many other non-essential plug-ins turned off - and don't have any other insert FX on the VI Instrument track (also, route it straight to the main audio output).angelvonfrankim wrote:Yep. I have a manual.
I set the buffer low (512) and there is still too much latency to be able to accurately trigger Model12 with a USB Keystation.
Is the only thing that helps setting the buffer lower? Any lower and I won't be able to use Liquid Mix.
Two other tricks are to host your VI on a separate computer or run stand-alone mode and route the MIDI via IAC.
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- sdfalk
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Re: DP 6.02 and latency
From a Focusrute page;
It is worth bearing in mind that the Liquid Mix has been designed first and foremost as a mixing device, rather than a tracking device. The latency is a price paid for the round trip journey over the FireWire bus, as well as for the complexity of the dynamic convolution. For a mixing device, this is an appropriate compromise. However, for tracking, the Liquid Mix may not be suitable in all cases.
This is the link:
http://www.focusrite.com/answerbase/en/ ... php?id=283
Having had some experience with both Uad2 and firewire based plugin solutions, this is unfortunately the way it is.
The Throughput on PCI express being soooo much faster then firewire.
Sorry..
I should add;
I would think it would be a bit problematic to track with any sequencer using a firewire based fx processor.
I may be wrong though.
It is worth bearing in mind that the Liquid Mix has been designed first and foremost as a mixing device, rather than a tracking device. The latency is a price paid for the round trip journey over the FireWire bus, as well as for the complexity of the dynamic convolution. For a mixing device, this is an appropriate compromise. However, for tracking, the Liquid Mix may not be suitable in all cases.
This is the link:
http://www.focusrite.com/answerbase/en/ ... php?id=283
Having had some experience with both Uad2 and firewire based plugin solutions, this is unfortunately the way it is.
The Throughput on PCI express being soooo much faster then firewire.
Sorry..
I should add;
I would think it would be a bit problematic to track with any sequencer using a firewire based fx processor.
I may be wrong though.
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