Going from BWAV files back to SD2 increases DP6 stability

ghobish · Post by **ghobish** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:58 am

Wanting to be part of the modern world, I set BWAV as the default file format in DP6 and started editing a new 88.2K tracking session (about 20 tracks, actually recorded at another studio in ProTools) in DP6. Crashes everywhere. Delete a marker, get a crash. Select a group of tracks for editing, get a crash. Look sideways, get a crash. (No templates, no plugs, tested with all third party plugs disabled, etc).

After opening up a ticket, attaching a crash report and the session file, appending the ticket with four more crash reports and not getting a response for a week, I thought I'd try redoing the session after converting the ProTools BWAV files into SD2 (using Barbabatch). Edited 5 takes of that song and then 2 more songs without a single crash.

I'm back on SD2 for the time being.

Maybe there's something specific about BWAV files recorded in ProTools that's the problem?

wurliuchi · Post by **wurliuchi** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:58 am

Thanks for that. Very interesting. I'm going to try a project with SD2 and see if that stops the crashing while editing in the S.E.

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:05 am

Now what would be interesting is to find out whether conversion back into BWAV might work without a crash. In other words, could the originals have been corrupted in some way that Barbabatch fixes?

ghobish · Post by **ghobish** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:16 am

Shooshie wrote:Now what would be interesting is to find out whether conversion back into BWAV might work without a crash. In other words, could the originals have been corrupted in some way that Barbabatch fixes?

Yes, that is the interesting question. (Barbabatch, by the way, is getting quite long in the tooth these days...)

Maybe I'll try a session where I take the ProTools WAV files, convert them into WAV files (basically doing a batch "Save As.." operation) and see what happens.

If that works, I'll try setting DP to use WAV files but have it automatically convert everything on import. Maybe we're getting somewhere.

martian · Post by **martian** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:39 pm

aha! I was doing convert everything on import since day 1 ( I was the epic swimmer against crash on save )

any old 5.XX projects I was using the "load" featre ( they DID fix that in 6! )

I believe I have had an entire 5 or 6 crashes in the last 3 weeks...

also I believe MOTU thinks you will operate in this manner... I mean it can't be unaware that it has the worlds flakiest "pro" file formats and with the price of a terrabyte you are only asking to be shat on if you dont make regular back ups - or copies on import

if you look in the manual it actually explains how it writes each region into the audio file - which explains how things go pear shaped big time...

mhschmieder · Post by **mhschmieder** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:49 pm

Thanks for letting us know.

You might want to change the topic title so it's clearer though. I almost didn't bother reading it because it says WAVE not BWF or BROADCAST WAVE.

I haven't started a new project in DP6 yet, and was unsuccessful in converting old ones to BWF, so maybe it's just as well. My next attempt will probably be more direct, using the Soundbites Window's mini-menu.

ghobish · Post by **ghobish** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:32 pm

mhschmieder wrote:You might want to change the topic title so it's clearer though. I almost didn't bother reading it because it says WAVE not BWF or BROADCAST WAVE.

Thanks for the heads up, though since DP6 only handles BWAV (and that's also what ProTools was set to) it's kind of a moot point.