monkey man wrote:
Soundmaster's reasoning, based on his tastes, is spelled out in the first post, Hobby:
soundmaster wrote:... i went and checked out Logic for it's sounds, and that became the very reason why i didn't buy it.... The DP synths beat the hell out of them for sure... DP excels at quality not quantity and i will definitely be buying DP6 and using only that...
The OP is also prepared to buy a bunch of tech-oriented VIs to supplement what DP has, which he's named a few times (a narrowed-down pool of 5 or so offerings, I think).
Yes, and these are the very points, I think that raised my initial questions when weighed together.
As I said, there's nothing wrong with asserting one's taste and making one's own choices to suit their needs. Supplementing a DAW is something that would benefit both Logic and DP. On that point, the criteria are even. I'm actually delighted for personal reasons that DP was soundmaster's choice, make no mistake.
But if the intent was always to supplement with third-party VIs, then I still don't quite understand why/how bundled VIs could be the deal breaker when there are so many other things to consider when choosing a DAW alone.
When dealing with bundled synths, IF that was really the main consideration, one cannot count on finding expansion sounds out there. You really have to get down and dirty with programming these things to fully assess what they can and cannot do, which is often a matter apart from the starter sounds that are thrown in. Such patches do not *always* speak to the fullness of any synth's capabilities.
That whittles things down to those bundled VIs into which sounds can be imported, ie: ESX24 and Nanosampler. You'd have to use each to get a clear understanding of their differences. The ESX24 has a lot more in common with MachFive or Kontakt than Nanosampler does in terms of programmability and flexibility.
Where the considerations were about quality vs quantity, I'll concede that quality is *entirely* personal for the sake of this post. As for quantity, Logic has a much longer history of offering VIs than DP does. Where DP has had fx plugins for many years, it should be noted that both DAWs still include plugins of one sort or another that have over the years taken on decreasing importance.
Perhaps reading the entire thread at once left a very different impression that it might have had I followed along daily, but somehow I think many important points were overshadowed once things turned negative.
Now that I think about it, I really haven't contributed to this thread in any way that has been particularly helpful or enlightening in an effort just to understand things a bit better. The most important thing is that soundmaster has reached his decision.