MOTU, Please give us some DP6 GUI options

bOing · Post by **bOing** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:28 am

kwiz wrote:Noted, and a good point. I can see that being a problem in my color scheme and I will be tweaking some more when I get a chance.

Wait, I was joking.

Actually, I do like your design though and see it as a good half-way point to something really awesome.

billf · Post by **billf** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:43 am

kwiz wrote:It's getting better.

I like it. Nice one kwiz.

grimepoch · Post by **grimepoch** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:04 pm

I've been looking, nothing yet!

Lookinnn · Post by **Lookinnn** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:20 pm

Here is something nobody has mentioned yet ..

!! Screen Burn In !! ..

White is notorious for causing screen burn in when windows are used in the same screen position often.
Ever notice the space where your browser address is displayed .. ???

Did motu make a deal with apple to sell us a new monitor every 2 years ?

haha

Tritonemusic · Post by **Tritonemusic** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:20 pm

Hey Kwiz,

That second version isn't bad at all. That is to say, relatively speaking.
The problem I'm having is that, not matter what kind of color modifications are made, DP6 makes me feel like I'm working in Mac System 6. I feel like we've gone way back in time. It just looks "cheap" to me. DP5's 3D look makes me feel like I'm in the modern world.

I know you don't all agree but, hey, that's how I see it.

billf · Post by **billf** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:35 pm

666 wrote:DP5's 3D look makes me feel like I'm in the modern world.

I know you don't all agree but, hey, that's how I see it.

I don't care for the 2d look either. It reminds me of the old Atari sequencers, like Master Tracks Pro or such. The ironic thing is that the next big thing on the web itself is 3d immersive applications, so the 2d movement in desktop apps is running counter to that trend.

tripit@earthlink.net · Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:48 pm

666 wrote:Hey Kwiz,

That second version isn't bad at all. That is to say, relatively speaking.
The problem I'm having is that, not matter what kind of color modifications are made, DP6 makes me feel like I'm working in Mac System 6. I feel like we've gone way back in time. It just looks "cheap" to me. DP5's 3D look makes me feel like I'm in the modern world.

I know you don't all agree but, hey, that's how I see it.

Yeah, I'm disappointed that they went 2D as well. It does make it look cheap and outdated. Also I find that it's easier to discern the sections when it's 3D. It's easier on the eye and brain.

grimepoch · Post by **grimepoch** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:55 pm

If you are using a CRT, then yes, whiter can be a problem.

But if you are using an LCD, the opposite is true. I've dealt with a few cheap LCDs where dark colors burn in. It is reversible, but it take making a white screen saver.

Because in an LCD, white is all pixels off and the backlight passing through.

With a CRT, white is all guns on burning in!

bOing · Post by **bOing** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:05 pm

grimepoch wrote:If you are using a CRT, then yes, whiter can be a problem. But if you are using an LCD, the opposite is true. ...

I always considered myself moderately current and have had an Apple LCD since early 2001. But it was only after I spent a zillion years making two awesome screensavers that I found out that apparently there are no screens to save anymore.

But even now I have no idea whether this is true or not. It's such a hidden piece of knowledge. I think it would be easier to have lunch with a 33rd degree Freemason than get our myths dispelled about modern technology.

(if you need me, I'll be having lunch, alone)

Lookinnn · Post by **Lookinnn** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:37 pm

GrimePooch ,
!!! SWEET !!! that's useful info .. thanks ...

I JUST got an lcd and it's an Mac 20" cinema so , it was on my mind haha

on all my mac i usually have the screen saver set to NEVER but on this mac its set to 5 mins haha ..

thanks again for the info
jeff

Lookinnn · Post by **Lookinnn** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:36 am

Here is something else i'd like to see in the new DP6

The ability to change the waveform color AND the waveform "background" color.
Way back when, there was a version of DP that let us customize this and a colored waveform on a black background was SOOOoo nice and easy on the eyes..

ALSO: when they add GUI customization possibilities, i hope they look into how companies like Shapeshifter and ThemePark implement GUI "kits".

For example in a every theme, a windows title bar has 3 sections , right side, left side , middle.
3 files to describe the titlebar so it can be customized in greater detail.

I hope we can create shortcuts and buttons like customizing a tool bar in a browser too.

anyways .. just some thoughts ..

bOing · Post by **bOing** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:54 am

They wrote:"Okay everyone, thanks for coming out today. Lots of good ideas out there, but we've decided to go in a different direction."

Noooooooooooooooo!

tripit@earthlink.net · Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:07 pm

Lookinnn wrote:Here is something else i'd like to see in the new DP6

The ability to change the waveform color AND the waveform "background" color.
Way back when, there was a version of DP that let us customize this and a colored waveform on a black background was SOOOoo nice and easy on the eyes..

Yes...if you look at the promo picture on MOTU's site, the wave forms themselves are black against the color of the track. Much much better. I would be happy with just being able to choose a black waveform instead of having both the track and waveform the same color - not enough contrast.

I'm not sure how MOTU came about with the DP6 GUI color schemes, but I just spoke with a friend that works as a rep for Yamaha now. They own Cubase and he told me that they spent a huge amount of time testing the colors and layout with a lot of people to make sure that they got something that was working really well in the new version. It's such an important part of the app. I don't use Cubase, but I have to say that I do really like the color schemes of new Cubase 4. I just saw it the other day at the event and it immediately caught my eye. I've always preferred the darker hues and blue is a very mellow and soothing color base. We use to use a lot of blue lighting in a studio I use to own. I always found that it was great for a creative atmosphere. VSL also has a great color scheme with VE3.

zed · Post by **zed** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:29 pm

tripit@earthlink.net wrote:Yes...if you look at the promo picture on MOTU's site, the wave forms themselves are black against the color of the track. Much much better. I would be happy with just being able to choose a black waveform instead of having both the track and waveform the same color - not enough contrast.

I tried to look for that promo picture, but apparently MOTU has gone back to the old "Digital Performer 5.12 is now shipping". Maybe they never took that down, but the last time I went DP6 was prominently advertised... now it does not appear to be an available product.

Anyways, I agree with you about the waveform colors.

YouTube · Post by **James Steele** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:56 pm

tripit@earthlink.net wrote:I would be happy with just being able to choose a black waveform instead of having both the track and waveform the same color - not enough contrast.

There are other options than the one you mention here. I used the one that uses the track color as background and then either black or white for waveform color (depending on darkness/lightness of track color).