DP 5.12 and Mac OSX 10.4.10

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:48 am

mon wrote:ah monkeyman, you are not from the States. nowadays for us yanks "science" and ""theory" and "test" are phrases to use and abuse...

Good call, mon.
Seems they're interchangeable, too.

Timeline · Post by **Timeline** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:56 am

mhschmieder wrote:OK, I'm going to dare to give it a go, now that I'm sufficiently caught up in my most immediate backlogged tasks. There's never a good time, but this is a better time than any time that has presented itself in the past couple of months, and I'm also anxious to see if it "magically" clears up my Powercore Firewire issues.

It will be icing on the cake if 10.4.10 also improves Vienna Instruments flakiness, and a couple of oddities with Ozone and Altiverb. I don't expect it to improve BIAS Peak Pro as I look at those crash logs regularly and it's clearly Peak's fault and not Apple's as all the logs are due to C++ memory allocation cleanup negligence within the Peak app itself.

Hopefully Apple has gotten Audio MIDI Setup stable again so it no longer crashes. A minor annoyance most of the time, but it often slows down a session when I have to relink all my external devices to the Fireface (actually, it's possible this is a Fireface issue and not an Apple bug, so I also look forward to seeing whether the Fireface behaves better in general under 10.4.10, as there are several Fireface related issues in 10.4.9).

What are your VSL issues. I have had some problems with the volume slider, right side of keyboard messing with automation presets.

jeronimo · Post by **jeronimo** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:16 am

so what is the final word on 10.4.10 and 5.12?
I'm on 10.4.8 and 5.11 and afraid of moving ahead...

Phil O · Post by **Phil O** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:34 am

jeronimo wrote:so what is the final word on 10.4.10 and 5.12?
I'm on 10.4.8 and 5.11 and afraid of moving ahead...

Don't know. I asked that same question a couple of days ago and got no response. I installed x.4.x and DP5.12 on a partition this Saturday and mixed all day Sunday with no problems. One day isn't a fair test, but at least it's good so far. Also it was only mixing (no tracking) and all audio (no VIs). That's all I have so far.

Phil

jeronimo · Post by **jeronimo** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:44 am

I don't use much VIs at all...
Thanks for your post!

mon · Post by **mon** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:22 pm

I know I don't have an advanced a setup as some of the others here (I think they are too smart to rush into updates on either the DP or OSX sides; once you've got stability and the functions you need you are all right).

And I have not put DP through all the paces but...

I have been as happy with DP as I have ever been since using DP5.12 and OSX 10.4.10. The only problem I have is a few projects that crash DP when I close the file. But this has been happening to me long before these latest updates.

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:35 pm

I have the latest-latest on my MacPro, and since doing the Audio Update 1.1 I've not had a single crash in DP 5.12 (knock wood). It's been a few days running and going strong (knock wood again).

However, I'm still running 5.11 and 10.4.8 on my G5 because it's working well as as it is. I don't want to touch it if I don't have to.

mon · Post by **mon** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:18 pm

speak of the devil...

mhschmieder · Post by **mhschmieder** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:47 pm

Oops, I thought I posted an update, but based on the query above, I didn't.

Version 10.4.10 neither solves any of my problems (TC Powercore FW won't load/boot; Vienna Instruments comes up in 192k mode and forces me to reset to 44.1k manually in AMS; AMS crashes constantly after just connecting one or two devices with the drag-lines; certain plug-ins only work in one format or another (MAS, VST, AU) in my two hosts (DP and Peak)) -- nor does it make any of them worse.

It does seem a bit zippier, which is a good thing. So overall I'm happy I did the upgrade. I also upgraded my RME Fireface 800 driver right afterwards, and am getting fewer glitches than before.

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:54 pm

mhschmieder wrote:.... Vienna Instruments comes up in 192k mode and forces me to reset to 44.1k manually in AMS; AMS crashes constantly after just connecting one or two devices with the drag-lines;..

Does Vienna misbehave if the AMS is not running? Sounds like a "clock fight" of sorts is at issue.

(and did you say "zippier"?

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mhschmieder · Post by **mhschmieder** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:12 pm

Oh, no, I bring up AMS to verify the clock rate. That was how I first discovered the cause of the problem (which originally caused me three end-on sleepless days/nights back in April, but I forget which thread I reported it in).

Anyway, I don't want to repeat everything that I said before, as I documented the problem in great detail before (including all of the variations in RME Fireface 800 settings and their complete lack of impact on the problem, and also how my first inkling something was wrong was when QT and MP3 plug-ins in the browser started hanging my system and/or going into random high-frequency blips).

I'm owing the zippier performance to 10.4.10, as I waited a good day after the upgrade (with lots of testing and verification) before doing the Fireface driver upgrade. It's a minor difference and may simply reflect on a clean build (I had cleaned out maybe too much perceived unneeded stuff from my computer during the course of trying to debug and/or fix all of my 10.4.9 problems).