normal time for DP to start up?

kgdrum · Post by **kgdrum** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:31 am

Mr.Clifford - "I downloaded that AU plug-in manager so that I could disable AU plugs that I don't use much in DP. You can save different configurations of plug-ins. "

hi what is this AU manager/do you have a link?
thanks KG

martian · Post by **martian** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:05 am

Well the honking mac used to doppler by me on starting session....

but now it's honking like it's in a traffic jam.!!!

I mean the sessions open up and all but take a while

On the subject of pluggins - I'm with da monkey man - pretty much my machine is as has come from apple...

I did try wave arts - but it got jettisoned when I was debugging a month ago - was probably a quicktime issue

actually I'm just bummed out that ambience didn't work ! That was my favorite reverb - I'd send the guy another $20 if he'd port it to UB..

But yes - it takes eons to start Dp...

might try timing this tomorrow...

err it might be the wrong guy

but

I'll be back.....

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:24 am

martian wrote:Well the honking mac used to doppler by me on starting session....

but now it's honking like it's in a traffic jam.!!!

Just curious-- same plugins now as in the early days of the MacPro, or have you installed more stuff since the bog started?

And-- approx how long does it take for yours to boot up?

martian · Post by **martian** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:08 am

it took 2 mins 2day

I just have the basics - DP's basic set and the AU that are in the OS..

it used to be quicker

today time at 2 mins....

I hadn't timed it before but it seemed longer...

it loads up plugins - I see them whizz by - then it freezes - and thaws to the reading project bar after around 2 mins..

martian · Post by **martian** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:52 am

wow definitely an issue!!!

I opened up DP on my imac intel - around 45s

on my mac pro - 3 minutes 30 something!!!!

trashing prefs hasn't helped...

they are basically the same system - plugin's etc - ( only diff is that rewire is installed on mac pro....

in both cases I just launcehed DP not opening any project,,,

hmmm - what have we here?

martian · Post by **martian** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:57 pm

and now yesterday - after a crash I reboot and it opened in approx 30 secs!!!

something weird here!!!

PBenz · Post by **PBenz** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:21 pm

Does anyone know where I can find that Audio Units Manager? I searched for it and came up with this link: http://www.grantedsw.com/aum/, but unfortunately that site appears to be gone.

I'm brand new to DP - my competitive crossgrade copy arrived yesterday, and the only thing I'm somewhat disappointed in is the startup time. Cubase 4 started in 15 seconds: DP takes 60. And yes, it's all the plugs-ins: it seems to take a long time to load Altiverb and 2 different Waves shells. I also have the UA plug-ins but it seems to load them pretty quickly.

I look at it this way: if DP's stability is good and I don't have to restart it all the time, then this will be a non-issue.

spirit · Post by **spirit** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:17 pm

DP in DAE mode seems like it takes 2x as long as in MAS mode- like it has to look at each component for DAE and then look at each component (or at least plug's/VI's) again for DP. With a big session with VI's etc. this can be 10+ minutes. For a similar session in PT it seems about half the time.

Tritonemusic · Post by **Tritonemusic** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:51 pm

PBenz wrote:Does anyone know where I can find that Audio Units Manager? I searched for it and came up with this link: http://www.grantedsw.com/aum/, but unfortunately that site appears to be gone.

Give me a PM with your email and I'll send it to you. It's only 500k.

PBenz · Post by **PBenz** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:37 am

Thanks, 666 - you have a PM.

TOD · Post by **TOD** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:49 am

Mine takes about 90 seconds on a G5 dual 2.7 w/ 6 1/2 gigs of RAM OSX49.

I noted that Altiverb takes at least 30% of the start up time, (I think loading all those IR's).

I'm a plug-••••• and it continues to take longer, but that's a welcome trade for increased stability in 5.11

HCMarkus · Post by **HCMarkus** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:55 am

Yeah, Altiverb takes awhile. As a Waves AU (as opposed to MAS) user, I have seen a dramatic reduction in DP startup time. As noted earlier in this thead, the tradeoff is slightly slower instantiation of each plug in a session. It appears that MAS pre-loads the plugs and AU loads 'em when you need 'em. This would explain DP's longer startup times.

As long as we're not crashing, I'm Alfred E. Neuman (or Neumann in audio circles): What? Me Worry?

PBenz · Post by **PBenz** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:28 am

Ah ha! Thanks, HCMarkus, for pointing that out. After moving my Waves MAS plug-ins out of the MAS directory and using the AU versions, I see exactly what you're saying.

martian · Post by **martian** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:10 am

since the initial week of 4 mins start up it's now back to 20s and it's all just a distant memory...

oh •••• did I just type that.... prolly gonna happen again now!!!

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:25 am

martian wrote:since the initial week of 4 mins start up it's now back to 20s and it's all just a distant memory...
oh •••• did I just type that.... prolly gonna happen again now!!!

Yup, good call martian.
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