in how many machines can i install mach five?

[ashy_art]

hi, i'm thinking about purchasing mach five and symphonic instrument, but in how many machines can i install them?

regards

[qo]

Even though MachFive comes with an iLok dongle, the license states:

YOU MAY: (a) use the enclosed program on a single computer; (b) physically transfer the program from one computer to another provided that the program is used on only one computer at a time and that you remove any copies of the program from the computer from which the program is being transferred.

The section in bold above seems to say that MachFive can be installed on only a single computer.

[motumacman]

even if you install it on 100 computers you still only have 1 ilok.... so youll only have one working copy...What are you trying to do...?

[ashy_art]

i usually travel with my powerbook but i work on a desktop G5. That's why i need to have it installed on both with having to delete on the other...

have you never tryed to copy them on two computers?

By the way, what is exactly the "ilok", is it just like the "xskey" for the Logic Pro?

See you...

[billf]

i usually travel with my powerbook but i work on a desktop G5. That's why i need to have it installed on both with having to delete on the other...

have you never tryed to copy them on two computers?

By the way, what is exactly the "ilok", is it just like the "xskey" for the Logic Pro?

See you...

I have the same set up as you, and MachFive will install on both computers.

The iLok is a USB dongle that contains the license, and it can only be plugged into one computer at a time. In your situation, the iLok is a good option since you can plug it into your G5 when you're home and plug it into your PowerBook when you're on the road.

When you're on the road, make sure you keep close watch on the iLok though. If you lose it, you won't be able to run MachFive at all on either computer.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

hi, i'm thinking about purchasing mach five and symphonic instrument, but in how many machines can i install them?

regards

You can, however, run MachFive on computer #1, remove the iLock and run it on your second machine, etc., etc., and it will continue to run UNTIL you quit the program. This was demonstrated a couple of years ago at West LA Music by a MOTU rep who said it is perefectly legal to do so. Although, a strict reading of the license seems to indicate you should be using it on one machine ONLY at a time. But if you doing a dense score on 2 computers via MIDI, it is good to know you can run multiple copies in a pinch.

iLoks are basically dongles that plug into any USB port for copy protection. MX4 (another fine MOTU product) also requires an iLok, but the authorizations can be combined to a single iLok for convenience. Obviously, iLoks are hot swappable.

[James Steele]

You can, however, run MachFive on computer #1, remove the iLock and run it on your second machine, etc., etc., and it will continue to run UNTIL you quit the program. This was demonstrated a couple of years ago at West LA Music by a MOTU rep who said it is perefectly legal to do so

Why am I skeptical of this? I'd really love further clarification from MOTU regarding this.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Well, it was from the horses' mouth. He did it right at West LA Music (Universal City) as part of the demo. All you need to do is try it. OF COURSE doing so to avoid buying theprogram is akin to running a cracked version of any software, but again, the MOTU guy said it was accepotable as several guys wanted to run 'parallel' versions of M5. The MOTU rep may have misspoken about it being ethical, but whether or not it is 'possible' would simply be a matter of trying it. No harm in removing a USB device while running. And M5 will NOT run in subsequent launches w/o the dongle. Presumably, the same case applies to MX4.

[qo]

The official MOTU stance is in their license agreement, which I provided above. Anything else is hearsay. I personally think MOTU should change their license to allow for installing on multiple computers so long as you only use one at a time. But, that's not what the license says.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

The official MOTU stance is in their license agreement, which I provided above. Anything else is hearsay. I personally think MOTU should change their license to allow for installing on multiple computers so long as you only use one at a time. But, that's not what the license says.

The West LA demo was months before the release of version one, so essentially, the license agreement was not public at that time. MOTU might have changed their mind (?) about multiple copies running with the dongle removed, and again - it is highly unethical to do so to run it on your friends machine.

My answer was a reflection on the demo BY MOTU at West LA Music and the comment BY a MOTU REP that M5 could run with the dongle removed. Good, bad or indifferent, the fact is, technically, that is the way the program operates.

[qo]

Hi Michael,

I don't doubt your description of the MOTU demo. I'm sure that, technically, it's possible. And, your comment "the MOTU rep may have misspoken..." indicates you're not the type to take one rep's statement as fact (which is why my comment wasn't directed at you). Rather, I wanted to put across the notion that, from a legal standpoint, the license trumps everything else. And, I know that you know this (hence your comment about the rep's potential blunder).

The bottom line (and this is not meant for Michael ) is that the license IS MOTU's position, legally, until they change it. Period. There's no room for debate about what you can and can't do with MachFive because the license is very very clear about this.

If anyone has a problem with the license agreement, then speak with your wallet and don't by the software. And, if you've already purchased the software, then don't use it, call MOTU and ask to return it for a refund and explain why. I don't agree with the license conditions. But, I like MachFive and so am willing to use it under these existing conditions. That's why I clicked the ACCEPT button when the agreement was presented to me. Here's another quote from the license:

TO PERSONS WHO PURCHASE OR USE THIS PRODUCT: carefully read all the terms and conditions of the "click-wrap" license agreement presented to you when you install the software. Using the software or this documentation indicates your acceptance of the terms and conditions of that license agreement.

So, if you clicked ACCEPT, you agreed not to install MachFive on more than one computer.