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Stream Deck and DP11

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I use Stream Deck.

I need that DP recognize Stream Deck. Can you help me ?
I have one Kontakt Instance and in SD have the MIDI Button application.
In this application there is a MIDI CC button that I want to use.

I've made a list of 10 different dynamics from pppp to ffff and before, I used the CC1 in the event list to set up the dynamic I wanted to use.

Now I want 10 buttons in SD corresponding to the different dynamics.
I can set up the beginning of the process.
But then .... nothing.
I don't know how to do that DP recognize Stream Deck.

Thanks for your help
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Re: Stream Deck and DP11

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I just picked one up on the recommendation of someone around here. Although I bought it mainly for Finale and Dorico, it will be great if I can use it for DP, too.

Here's a thread from a few monthds ago:
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=65813&p=559472&hil ... ck#p559472
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Re: Stream Deck and DP11

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After one whole day, everything is ok and works great.
Here is what I wanted to do.
I created 10 different dynamics from pppp to ffff and now each dynamic is in Stream Deck.
Just have to push dynamic one by one when the music is on. Use overdub and open sequence modulation, record your dynamics by pushing the buttons on the fly. After you can quantize your dynamics if needed.
It is so fast !! Stream Deck is a big tool for us musicians.
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Re: Stream Deck and DP11

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Nice!

I’m looking for a one-button solution to automate holding down the Command, Option and Shift keys as modifiers. Having only one working arm, this would save me a lot of time while editing. Right now, I place my left hand onto the keyboard as a deadweight and off when I’m done.

I’ve spent a lot of money trying to crack this nut but nothing else has worked so far. I bought the XL so there are 29 buttons left if I get this working.
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Re: Stream Deck and DP11

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I've been using a StreamDeck for over a couple of years, and have adapted it to DP beautifully.

It can be used for anything as you are aware of, and a great place to start is with some pre-programmed templates from www.NotationCentral, especially if you use Finale, Sibelius, or Dorico. They're a great place to start, and then you add your own customizations for what you like.

With DP, I love it for mostly Transport features and some editing commands that I like to have quick access to, but again, you can customize it for pretty much anything you want it to do. There are some real 'power users' out there there use it for video/pod casting type stuff, so it can handle pretty much anything.

In DP, you have to use the 'Commands' page to make an initial assignment, and then copy that particular DP Command over to a SteamDeck pad.

I have the original 15 key version, but they make a larger deck which could be pretty handy for sure. I'll probably get one someday, but the one I have is fine.

I like it because you can move it from one machine to another easily (just move the Preferences setting), and also because you get a 'tactile' response which I like compared to an iPad or something where you just touch a soft screen icon. It feels like a real tool or instrument to work with.
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Re: Stream Deck and DP11

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I just wanted to say, thanks so much for this thread! I had no idea what StreamDeck actually was.. I thought it might be video/audio "streaming" software or something.

I think I'm going to get the XL version right away, I've needed this for years! Perfect match for the Commands in DP, and doesn't have to be a on a different device (iPad). My workflow has become a little more complex as of late, and it's hard to stay in a creative flow when you're having to remember a bunch of QWERTY Key combinations.
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Another happy Stream Deck user here. Especially useful for adding new and newly discovered DP commands and functionality - plus whatever QuickKeys scripts you'd care to apply. As DP has evolved adding rememberable, easily accessible commands has gotten increasingly difficult. Stream Deck works as a sophisticated, simple to use extension of the QWERTY, and beyond. ....plus it intelligently switches to what ever app you switch to to access that app's functions that you've configured.

There's iPad apps that do what SD does (and much more) but the relatively narrow focus of SD makes it better, and cheaper as a dedicated, permanent fixture for my rig. I bumped up to the XL version pretty quickly.
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Re: Stream Deck and DP11

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Right... just saw they have a 32 key version:

https://www.amazon.com/Elgato-Stream-De ... ref=sr_1_1

Of course, I seem to recall I had already done something like this with an iPad. I can't remember since I pressed the iPad into service for live performance a while back. Looks interesting!
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James Steele wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:53 pm Right... just saw they have a 32 key version:

https://www.amazon.com/Elgato-Stream-De ... ref=sr_1_1
I got mine recently. It was on backorder many months; forgot I had ordered it.
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James Steele wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:53 pm Of course, I seem to recall I had already done something like this with an iPad.
I did that, and actually got an iPad so I could. But I found the limitation was the number of commands I could put on it. I found myself hesitating to think about whether the command I wanted was on the iPad, or if I had to go to the keyboard. There was less thinking involved when just about everything I did was a keyboard command. I don't think using the iPad was any faster and I don't see why this would be either. Other than the tactile feature, is there anything this does that the iPad apps don't do?
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bayswater wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:19 pm
James Steele wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:53 pm Of course, I seem to recall I had already done something like this with an iPad.
I did that, and actually got an iPad so I could. But I found the limitation was the number of commands I could put on it. I found myself hesitating to think about whether the command I wanted was on the iPad, or if I had to go to the keyboard. There was less thinking involved when just about everything I did was a keyboard command. I don't think using the iPad was any faster and I don't see why this would be either. Other than the tactile feature, is there anything this does that the iPad apps don't do?
Probably not. I haven't investigated if one exists, but there's no doubt an iPad app could do everything that Stream Deck does. But it's the elegance and ease of SD's extremely well thought out software implementation combined with dedicated, tactile hardware that makes it appealing. One would need to dedicate an iPad to their rig for something similar, and many do. Some (me) just prefer the the focus the Stream Deck system. ...plus, unless I had a rig-only iPad the thing would never end up being where it's supposed to be when I needed it. And of course an iPad has all kinds of control-surface functionality that Stream Deck can't do. Both a dedicated rig iPad and Stream Deck would be optimal. I've seen a lot of setups with this.

btw the available Stream Deck assignments are unlimited. It's setup as layers and dead simple to configure. I keep my most common commands on the top layer and lesser used ones on separate, dedicated layers.
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Thanks dix. All good points. Ideally, we could get a regular fully programmable, full sized keyboard with LCD keys. I haven't see the combination of a full size keyboard with the usual layout, able to program every key with actions or macros, display a custom image file for each key, store configs for muitiple apps, and bring the correct keyboard forward when the app is in front.
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bayswater wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:45 pm Thanks dix. All good points. Ideally, we could get a regular fully programmable, full sized keyboard with LCD keys. I haven't see the combination of a full size keyboard with the usual layout, able to program every key with actions or macros, display a custom image file for each key, store configs for muitiple apps, and bring the correct keyboard forward when the app is in front.
Looks like a business opportunity. If I was 20 years younger…
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Re: Stream Deck and DP11

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mikehalloran wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:39 pm
bayswater wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:45 pm Thanks dix. All good points. Ideally, we could get a regular fully programmable, full sized keyboard with LCD keys. I haven't see the combination of a full size keyboard with the usual layout, able to program every key with actions or macros, display a custom image file for each key, store configs for muitiple apps, and bring the correct keyboard forward when the app is in front.
Looks like a business opportunity. If I was 20 years younger…
I've seen full size configurable LCD QWERTY keyboards, but they never caught on for whatever reason. It's Stream Deck's software that makes it so useful really. I'm sure the idea of full size keyboard has occurred to El Gato. ...even if there was oen I'd probably still want a Stream Deck as an extension.

Here's one https://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/popularis/
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dix wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:47 pm Here's one https://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/popularis/
All their products are "sold out" or "concept". Seems they don't actually have anything
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