Massive X released today — won’t run on the Mac Pro

[mikehalloran]

Like other Komplete 12 owners, I got the email that the long promised Massive X upgrade dropped today.

I came across this on Mac Rumors:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/bu ... x.2187752/

People are upgrading CPUs on the 5.1. I’ve asked if any of the upgrade options from Intel will work to add AVX compatibility.

[Gravity Jim]

Bummer. I don't use Massive very often, but I still don't like the way this is going....

The thing is, I'm 63, semi-retired from production, and probably never going to buy another Mac. So if this upgraded 5,1 won't run it, I don't need it.

[HCMarkus]

Didn't catch this before... appears Massive X is the only NI product requiring AVX. Reviewing the NI Forum, the company rep offers no hope that Massive X will ever be able to run on a non-AVX CPU. Having just sprung for Complete Ultimate Collectors edition via an upgrade from Complete Ultimate 10, I am slightly disheartened, but there is a lot more stuff I will be able to use in the upgrade, and so we press on with the 5,1 Mac Pro!

[mikehalloran]

The version of Massive that was still current as of yesterday will work. If Sweetwater is shipping media, that’s the version it will have.

[HCMarkus]

The version of Massive that was still current as of yesterday will work. If Sweetwater is shipping media, that’s the version it will have.

Yes, I have that one, and all continue to use it! But it would have been fun to explore NI's long-promised latest and greatest.

[nk_e]

The version of Massive that was still current as of yesterday will work. If Sweetwater is shipping media, that’s the version it will have.

Yes, I have that one, and all continue to use it! But it would have been fun to explore NI's long-promised latest and greatest.

Indeed. I am really bummed as the promise of a free a Massive X “tipped the scales” in my decision to upgrade from K10U. (I already had a lot of the newer stuff in K12U.) I swear I don’t remember the AVX requirement when they were first hawking the new Komplete, but I could have missed it.

But hey, with Bitwig’s Grid, VCV Rack, and Phase Plant all in the wild and NOT requiring AVX, I have plenty to keep me busy.

I’m hoping the next Kontakt or Reaktor does not go this route though...

[dix]

Indeed. I am really bummed as the promise of a free a Massive X “tipped the scales” in my decision to upgrade from K10U. (I already had a lot of the newer stuff in K12U.) I swear I don’t remember the AVX requirement when they were first hawking the new Komplete, but I could have missed it.

I was wondering about this too. Does anyone recall NI mentioning this detail anywhere when they were selling us on Komplete 12?

This AVX requirement is a new rub. I knew eventually there'd be MacOS that wouldn't be compatible with my 5,1 MP, but I didn't see this coming.

[cuttime]

Apparently this dates to November 2018, and no, it's not obvious:
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... fications/

[dix]

Apparently this dates to November 2018, and no, it's not obvious:
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... fications/

Oh, well. There goes the class-action lawsuit. Though even if I had seen this page somehow, I hadn't heard of AVX until yesterday.

Are there other plugins/VIs out there that require AVX I wonder? ....if not, there will be I reckon

[greg328]

So, the dumb obvious question is: which Macs have AVX CPUs? When did Apple start supplying those? Safe to assume my 5.1 will NOT have AVX capability?

Greg

[cuttime]

So, the dumb obvious question is: which Macs have AVX CPUs? When did Apple start supplying those? Safe to assume my 5.1 will NOT have AVX capability?

Greg

Anything after 2011, I think.
http://csharpmulticore.blogspot.com/201 ... swell.html

[cuttime]

Seriously, at this point I would wait out Massive X. Yeah, a lot of hard feelings for NI, and I think well deserved. There's a lot of reviews out there ranging from fan-base swooning to some nit-picky slagging. After spending several days with the demo, I'm inclined to side with the intelligent criticisms. Really, I think that MX is half baked and rushed out. By the time NI irons it out, you might already have a new computer.

[HCMarkus]

By the time NI irons it out, you might already have a new computer.

[Prime Mover]

Can't say I'm infinitely thrilled with the new design, and I'm a huge Massive fan. I feel like they needlessly reinvented the wheel, when a fairly straightforward update with new features would have been perfect:

- scaleable UI
- true random LFOs
- user editable wavetables
- upgraded DSP
- some new effects and filter types

Massive remains my favorite synth workflow, and it spawned an entire generation of similarly "non-vintage" UIs. Maybe Massive X will turn out to be amazing, but had they simply upgraded the old system, they would have made users a lot happier.

[monkey man]

I asked here back in January or thereabouts about the compatibility, and was assured there would be no issue with my 2012 Cheese Grater™.

Oh, how wrong the kind contributors were. I can't find the thread but well remember my asking about it 'cause I'd heard rumblings that it wouldn't run on some Macs. Again, I was assured that it'd run on any Mac as long as the OS was within-spec.

Pretty bummed-out. Ordered KU12 last year. Still on lay-buy, but it's really disappointing to know that what was to be one of the highlights for me won't even run. Aarrgghh!