Buss output changes all by itself. Huh?

[gavspen]

There's a template I use frequently, which has an an Aux buss in the V-Rack, called "VO", whose output is set to another buss, called "Mix", and the output of "Mix", in turn, is "Main Out 1-2".

For some weird reason, sometimes when I open this up, the output of "VO" has spontaneously switched itself to "Main Out 1-2". Whaaa? Why?

It's no big deal, but why is this happening? Any guesses?

Thanks

[mesayre]

When I've seen weird bundle stuff, it's usually caused by one of these things:


- Having more busses in the session than your "studio setup" is configured to use. DP will reassign stuff to make it workThis was a bigger issue back in the day when we were limited to 96 or whatever.
- Having used a different hardware device, which causes DP to re-enumerate its hardware outputs and may also cause shuffling of busses. You may find duplicates in the bundles window.
- I used to have trouble with rewire devices clobbering my bundles. This is probably the least likely cause, but at one point I got so annoyed I removed the rewire plugin from my system. It gets installed by all kinds of apps but I almost never use it. I haven't sen this one for a while though.

Hope that helps!

[bayswater]

You might want to look at the bundles window when you load the template and see if the busses and outputs you originally set are still there. I don't recall the versions affected, but there were some where things you defined in Bundles didn't seem to get kept in saved projects. Perhaps something changed in your general setup between the time you created your template and now? Recreating the template might help if the Bundles don't look right.

(You are using v8.04? You could apply the last V8 update -- 8.07?)

[mesayre]

Ah, just saw that you're on DP 8. I would definitely check the number of busses in studio settings. If you've exceeded the allocation, that can cause unpredictable bundle behavior. In DP8 I think the max was still 96.

[Phil O]

Yeah it doesn't take much to mess up the bundles order. It usually happens to me when I forget to turn on my converters before I launch DP. Dp will then search for available outputs and inputs and reassign bundles to them. I haven't seen this problem lately. Perhaps it's been addressed in 9.52. Dunno.

[bayswater]

Yeah it doesn't take much to mess up the bundles order. It usually happens to me when I forget to turn on my converters before I launch DP. Dp will then search for available outputs and inputs and reassign bundles to them. I haven't seen this problem lately. Perhaps it's been addressed in 9.52. Dunno.

I think it was addressed some time in the last year or two, simply because I don't see it happening any more.

[HCMarkus]

Yeah it doesn't take much to mess up the bundles order. It usually happens to me when I forget to turn on my converters before I launch DP. Dp will then search for available outputs and inputs and reassign bundles to them. I haven't seen this problem lately. Perhaps it's been addressed in 9.52. Dunno.

I think it was addressed some time in the last year or two, simply because I don't see it happening any more.

I have seen that here and there over the years when I forgot to start up my interface before booting my Mac. My long-time startup routine is interface and outboard first, computer last.

[gavspen]

Yeah it doesn't take much to mess up the bundles order. It usually happens to me when I forget to turn on my converters before I launch DP. Dp will then search for available outputs and inputs and reassign bundles to them. I haven't seen this problem lately. Perhaps it's been addressed in 9.52. Dunno.

I think it was addressed some time in the last year or two, simply because I don't see it happening any more.

I have seen that here and there over the years when I forgot to start up my interface before booting my Mac. My long-time startup routine is interface and outboard first, computer last.

Ah HA! Yes that's it, except backwards.

Having read this, I realised that sometimes I forget to shut down DP before turning off the interface. At that point I get the "Audio interface turned off" error message (or whatever it is), I click "continue" and then shut down DP, and the next time I start up, the output has changed.

There ya go, mystery solved