DP8.03 is crashing on my system.

[delcosmos]

Hello guys,

First of all. I really want this to work and the only reason I'm posting this is looking for help.
Yesterday when Radiogal posted about the release of DP8.03 I was so excited and the first thing I did in the morning was download my update.

I installed, repaired permissions, etc, etc.
When I tried to adjust soundbites to sequence tempo (3 audio files from 128 to 130), DP Crashed again.
I'm working on a fresh installed Mac OS 8.0.3. I tried the same task with all the plug ins off and got the same crash.

Guys, what do you think is happening here?

I already sent a tech report to Motu without any luck, so motunation is my only way to share this problem.

Best regards.

delcosmos.

[delcosmos]

I will try with an empty project, starting from nothing, a blank template to see if maybe some routing is doing this.

I sent my crash log to MOTU, maybe they can read there what's happening.

I just want to make clear that I'm not moaning about DP8.03, I'm sure this is related to my own system. I really want to find the problem, DP is the most important thing in my studio. I make a living working with DP and I love it since the first day I started making music on a computer (many, many years ago ha ha ha!).

Best regards,

delcosmos.

[jbyerly1]

just crashed it twice trying to load Kramer Tape plug-in. Something about a waveshell

[bdr]

delcosmos it says crashed thread 188 if you scroll down the crash report you will find 188 and often can tell what the culprit is from that.

[delcosmos]

delcosmos it says crashed thread 188 if you scroll down the crash report you will find 188 and often can tell what the culprit is from that.

Thanks bdr,

This is Thread 188, I don't know how to interpret it je je:

Thread 188 Crashed:
0 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156243e ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13118
1 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
2 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
3 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
4 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
5 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
6 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
7 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
8 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
9 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
10 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
11 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
12 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
13 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
14 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
15 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
16 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
17 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
18 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
19 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
20 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
21 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
22 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
23 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
24 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
25 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
26 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
27 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
28 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
29 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
30 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
31 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
32 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
33 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
34 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
35 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
36 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
37 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
38 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
39 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
40 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
41 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
42 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
43 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
44 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
45 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
46 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
47 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
48 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
49 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
50 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
51 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
52 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
53 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
54 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
55 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
56 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
57 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
58 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
59 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
60 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
61 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
62 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
63 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
64 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
65 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
66 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
67 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
68 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
69 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
70 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
71 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
72 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
73 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
74 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
75 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
76 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
77 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
78 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
79 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
80 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
81 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
82 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156251f ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 13343
83 libPureDSP.dylib 0x0000000101562c79 ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 15225
84 libPureDSP.dylib 0x0000000101562f23 ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 15907
85 libPureDSP.dylib 0x00000001015633f3 ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 17139
86 libPureDSP.dylib 0x0000000101563456 ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 17238
87 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156352b ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 17451
88 libPureDSP.dylib 0x00000001015635b9 ShortenPeriod(PeriodRawData&, int) + 17593
89 libPureDSP.dylib 0x0000000101547cee FundamentalEstimator::GetBestEstimates(float*, double*, float&, float) + 22638
90 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010156b61e AudioSource::~AudioSource() + 9726
91 libPureDSP.dylib 0x000000010153cdc9 DSPControlRec::Work(float*, int&) + 41
92 PerfEngine.dylib 0x00000001021b9307 DSPBackgroundTask::WorkInternal(int, LongFraction&) + 155
93 PerfEngine.dylib 0x00000001021b413e BackgroundTask::DoWorkLoop() + 24
94 libMotuCoreLibs.dylib 0x000000010122c0d2 WorkQueue::WorkQueue(MotuThreadID::ThreadPriority, int, bool) + 850
95 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff915847a2 _pthread_start + 327
96 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff915711e1 thread_start + 13

[Timeline]

You need to truncate that list and include 188 thread to see it. You might edit it to do so.

[NazRat]

just crashed it twice trying to load Kramer Tape plug-in. Something about a waveshell

Mine doesn't crash with the Kramer TTT plugs, it's just a blank UI in 64 bit (no controls, anything - all white space). So there may be something up with some of the Waves stuff causing problems. They work in 32 bit though. Have you tried updating? The installer is up to v9r11 and Wavesshell 2.2x - somewhere in there. I'm on a different OS.

To the OP - I believe all the PureDSP stuff is related to pitch shifting and soundbite analysis. Maybe try turning off all the automatic stuff and see if you get any further.

[Gravity Jim]

My Waves weirdness cleared up by reinstalling.... The current Waveshell is 9.2.x, and I was having some issues while still running 9.1. Waves apparently doesn't alert its users to updates, but I guess they are more critical than I thought.

[delcosmos]

You need to truncate that list and include 188 thread to see it. You might edit it to do so.

Indeed that is thread 188, I already truncated the other 187 threads.

Best regards.

delcosmos.

[Killahurts]

Armando, I have noticed that this problem started to occur for you with 8.02, which is when MOTU said there were new "enhancements" to the waveform displays. Of course, the waveforms change when you perform an operation like time stretching, maybe it's getting hung up there?

I don't know a thing about how to read those threads, but to me, this line:

89 libPureDSP.dylib 0x0000000101547cee FundamentalEstimator::GetBestEstimates(float*, double*, float&, float) + 22638

...makes me think it's to do with that outline waveform display DP uses until the DSP operation is finished, and it can rescan for the new waveform. Just a (not-so-educated) guess..

[delcosmos]

Armando, I have noticed that this problem started to occur for you with 8.02, which is when MOTU said there were new "enhancements" to the waveform displays. Of course, the waveforms change when you perform an operation like time stretching, maybe it's getting hung up there?

I don't know a thing about how to read those threads, but to me, this line:

89 libPureDSP.dylib 0x0000000101547cee FundamentalEstimator::GetBestEstimates(float*, double*, float&, float) + 22638

...makes me think it's to do with that outline waveform display DP uses until the DSP operation is finished, and it can rescan for the new waveform. Just a (not-so-educated) guess..

Thanks bro, I suspect the same thing. I got a response from Lore at Motu telling me that they are analyzing my case. I'll let you know what they say.

In the mean time, I'll should go back to 8.01. Man! I wanted so bad to work with the new DP8.03.

Other workaround could be to work in 8.03 and if I have to make a time adjust, close it and do that on DP8.01. But its a waste of time because I use Ableton Live in rewire mode and Live 9 opens very very slow!

Best regards.

[James Steele]

Have you tried closing the project, trashing the contents of the project's "Analysis Files" folder, and then reloading the project? That should force DP to rebuild the waveform overviews. Maybe that might help. Shot in the dark.

[delcosmos]

Have you tried closing the project, trashing the contents of the project's "Analysis Files" folder, and then reloading the project? That should force DP to rebuild the waveform overviews. Maybe that might help. Shot in the dark.

Will try that right now, the thing is that DP is doing this on any project, new or old. So if your tip works, I hope I don't have to trash contents everytime I want to change the tempo of a song.

Thank you James.

Best regards.

delcosmos.