Making the Move to DP8

tommymandel · Post by **tommymandel** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:55 am

I've just cloned my MBP hard drive and finished most open projects. I figure that's a good time to do the upgrade on this laptop, as I can go back to my completely pre-DP8 configuration by restoring from the back up. IS that correct? And 2ndly, can I go right to 8.01 and authorize (I purchase 8 right when it came out, but never installed) or do I install v. 8.0 first - and is there anything that I should beware of, (for example: "stick with 8.0 until 8.02 is released) or should I just Go For It, good MotuBrothers (and sister)? Thanks

MIDI Life Crisis · Post by **MIDI Life Crisis** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:24 pm

If you mean reinstalling the entire system to revert one program, that seems a little extreme to me - maybe that's not what you meant.

The big bugaboo is running DP8 in 32 or 64 and which of your plugs won't work. You also need to be sure you look up the MP3 export threads and install those files. Update you MOTU drivers and REPAIR PERMISSIONS!!!!!! That last thing cannot be understated after this upgrade. You will find corrections to the MOTU audio engine. This fixes a lot of stuff.

I still don't completely understand the "why" behind what has been posted regarding running DP in 32 bit or 64 bit. I run in 64, but the consensus is that running DP in 32 bit allows you to address all the RAM in your system and you won't loose your 32 bit plugs. Bouncing between the two is not optional as some plugs in 32 will not load in the 64 bit launch and visa versa.

Good luck, but you probably don't need it. Oh, and update to DP 8.01 right away.

tommymandel · Post by **tommymandel** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:44 pm

Thanks so much, MLC, just the information I was hoping to find. Much appreciated, compadre.

PS. the restore I was referring to is just a one-step process, from Carbon Copy Cloner, which might even defrag while it runs...But hopefully, armed with the info from your post, I won't need to 'go back.' I'm sticking with 32-bit mode, for olde plug inns sake, if Mainstage 2.0's behavior is any indication.

tommymandel · Post by **tommymandel** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:29 pm

All went well on the MBP! A few crashes in 32 bit mode, but eventually it seemed to sort itself (or the plug-ins) out. 64 bit was 'snappy' but Wavestation and NI Prophet-53 are 32 bit I bet.
So I'm like

kgdrum · Post by **kgdrum** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:33 pm

tommymandel wrote:All went well on the MBP! A few crashes in 32 bit mode, but eventually it seemed to sort itself (or the plug-ins) out. 64 bit was 'snappy' but Wavestation and NI Prophet-53 are 32 bit I bet.
So I'm like

Hey Tommy,
You might want to check out jBridge,it's a great bridge for 32bit plugs and VI's,it gives you the ability to use DP8 in 64bit mode.
The developer is really great and it only costs $13.

tommymandel · Post by **tommymandel** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:29 am

KG! That's JUST what I woke up wishing for. Thanks thanks Thanks!!!

tommymandel · Post by **tommymandel** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:33 am

Was just on their site, and have one question: does jBridge work with AU plug-ins, or only VST's?

edit I just checked and every VI or plug-in I use (except for Native Instruments' Pro-53) has a VST version! Good to Go. Thanks again...

kgdrum · Post by **kgdrum** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:58 am

The developer is great he just sent me a revised version that RG mentioned it omits the the prefix jBridge in the insert bar,easier to read.
If you're going to get it you might want to ask Joao about it.
I was also hesitant about VST availability,all of my plugs except 2 were already installed so the procedure was quite easy.
The jBridge app is really very cool it works,most if not all users are finding it to be very stable & it has me rediscovering forgotton gems I had given up on being able to use in 64bit like Pro 53,B4 & URS Saturation etc.....
The developer is a truly nice guy and totally responsive(we exchanged several email last night,I wanted the version without the prefix)which he sent last night!
He's looking into developing an AU version but that might take a while & after getting used to VST's and seeing the availabity, I don't care now.
If you search here you will find several threads with happy jBridge users.

FMiguelez · Post by **FMiguelez** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:27 am

Kenny, when you run VST VIs in DP with this Bridge app, can you also use more than 16 MIDI channels?

Would this do to work around AU's limitation in that respect?

kgdrum · Post by **kgdrum** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:38 am

I think this only supports VST not VST3,so I think the answer is no.
I'm a VST novice.
Honestly I'm not using this many MIDI channels in either case,I'm more of a minimalist.I'm still almost 1 step away from pots and pans! lol
Hopefully someone else can confirm.
But either way jBridge is a steal at $13!

FMiguelez · Post by **FMiguelez** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:09 am

Thanks, Kenny.

But I'm a little confused now. You meant this JBridge app supports VST 2 only, or is it DP the one who is not VST 3-compatible?

kgdrum · Post by **kgdrum** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:22 am

FMiguelez wrote:Thanks, Kenny.

But I'm a little confused now. You meant this JBridge app supports VST 2 only, or is it DP the one who is not VST 3-compatible?

Hi Fernando,I'll reply to the question with this quote from the jBridge Wordpress site to clarity

"jBridgeM is a generic VST bridge for Mac OS X VST hosts/plugins ( up to the VST 2.4 specification )."

So the answer is both DP and jBridge support VST2 not VST3,hope this helps

FMiguelez · Post by **FMiguelez** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:54 am

It does help.

I suppose I can live with that for the time being.

Thanks, Kenny!

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