B4 ?

michael77 · Post by **michael77** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:06 am

Hey folks......... so far so good with DP8........ waves version 9 seems strong, as does VE pro, Play, Ivory, T-racks, cinematic strings etc......... Big let down is the B4 situation....... the best hammond plug in in the biz is not usable in DP8 64 bit.......... whasupwidat?

Am I forced to work in Logic when I need a good hammond sample?

Also DP8 does feel a bit sluggish at re drawing various windows......

Also after loading in 5 instances of Hollywood strings and 5 instances of cinematic strings in
VE pro and writing an adagio string example, DP does not play back very well...... pops, drop outs etc......

I guess all is not perfect, but thanks motu for the effort...... I know you guys will get it right.

MIDI Life Crisis · Post by **MIDI Life Crisis** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:20 am

Sorry I can't see your sig on Tapatalk - so my questions start with your machine, RAM, etc. Then I'd ask if your launching DP in 32 or 64 bit.

kgdrum · Post by **kgdrum** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:48 am

michael77 wrote:Hey folks......... so far so good with DP8........ waves version 9 seems strong, as does VE pro, Play, Ivory, T-racks, cinematic strings etc......... Big let down is the B4 situation....... the best hammond plug in in the biz is not usable in DP8 64 bit.......... whasupwidat?

Am I forced to work in Logic when I need a good hammond sample?

What's up is NI discontinued B4 a few years ago,it's 32bit.
Have you tried using it in DP8 32bit?
MOTU chose not to use bridging in DP8 for stability issues,you might want to try a 3rd party solution like jBridge Mac maybe that might work.

Dwetmaster · Post by **Dwetmaster** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:57 am

....Or host B4 in bidule and be done with it...

MIDI Life Crisis · Post by **MIDI Life Crisis** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:04 pm

Dwetmaster wrote:....Or host B4 in bidule and be done with it...

Not so fast. That is not working for some of us. If DP is in 64 bit, no version of Bidule will bridge to a 64 bit DP8. If you found a way, please share as I have not. Seb at PB has been trying to help, but as an AU or in standalone, no go for 32 bit plugs in 64 bit DP.

MIDI Life Crisis · Post by **MIDI Life Crisis** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:05 pm

Also, o/p, we need more info on your system and how you are paunching DP (32 or 64 bit).

Dwetmaster · Post by **Dwetmaster** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:57 pm

MLC, you're saying Bidule can't receive MIDI from DP if it's in 64 Bits? Or you can't "soundflower" it back to DP?

I usually use an Xtra ADAT loop back from 896 for my transfers between DP and Bidule.

MIDI Life Crisis · Post by **MIDI Life Crisis** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:05 pm

DP8 had been crashing with Bidule every time. I just re-tested this morning and I can run Bidule in 32 bit (for my 32 bit VIs) and DP in 64 bit - so far. I'll run it thru it's paces today. PB in 64 bit will not run 32 bit VIs - which is kind of obvious, I know. And PB as an AU in any configuration crashes DP8 in 64 bit.

Dwetmaster · Post by **Dwetmaster** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:52 pm

Ah ok but I never use PB as an AU.

I just run it standalone and use IAC to send MIDI from DP to PB
I guess I have to recheck later on but I think it works???

MIDI Life Crisis · Post by **MIDI Life Crisis** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:57 pm

As posted elsewhere...

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... 26&t=51499

michael77 · Post by **michael77** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:55 pm

Thanks for all of the response folks......... I got 22 gigs of ram in my mac pro........ and I am most definitely opening DP8 in 64 bit.

I would be surprised if motu doesn't issue an upgrade with a 32 bit bridge like Logic.

kgdrum · Post by **kgdrum** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:19 am

michael77 wrote:Thanks for all of the response folks......... I got 22 gigs of ram in my mac pro........ and I am most definitely opening DP8 in 64 bit.

I would be surprised if motu doesn't issue an upgrade with a 32 bit bridge like Logic.

Actually I'd be surprised if MOTU developed any kind of bridge,their position as it was told to me is that a bridge introduces too many stability issues,it would have delayed the release & be obsolete, sooner rather then later as most plugs and VI's will be 64bit.
I don't think they want to spend the time or resources developing or troubleshooting what they see as a short term solution that will compromise stability for what will become legacy products that developers have chosen not to update to 64bit or for companies that aren't in business anymore.
There are 3rd party bridge solutions available,after seeing the associated problems Apple has had with Logics bridge,why would they want to open the can of worms & build it into DP?

MIDI Life Crisis · Post by **MIDI Life Crisis** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:34 am

It would seem VE Pro is the best solution to bridge. As linked above I have Plogue Bidule working and jbridge us working for others if my memory is correct. These will probably be your only options and a bridge from MOTU is likely not in the stars or our Macs.

SixStringGeek · Post by **SixStringGeek** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:08 pm

michael77 wrote:Big let down is the B4 situation....... the best hammond plug in in the biz is not usable in DP8 64 bit.......... whasupwidat?

Am I forced to work in Logic when I need a good hammond sample?

No, if you have VE Pro you can run B4 in a 32 bit VE Pro server and access it from DP8-64.

As for watsupwitdat - be sure to send some appropriate hate mail to the boneheads running Naive Instruments (into the ground afaics) telling them how ripped off you feel for having spent money on their products.

michael77 · Post by **michael77** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:37 pm

using VE pro is 32 bit works great as a bridge......... case closed

thanks folks.

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