Is Lion out?
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Is Lion out?
Just heard a nationally syndicated talk show host just now claim on the air he was running Lion on his Mac and that it was NOT a beta???
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Re: Is Lion out?
The Golden Master has been seeded to developers. Which also means that it is also readily available on The Pirate Bay and the likes 

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Re: Is Lion out?
I think this person is on the registered developer list. He provides a lot of free advertising time to Apple on his show. I did go look at not out yet, but probably tomorrow I'll bet. 

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Re: Is Lion out?
Yeah, rumour says tomorrow.
Will be really interesting to see if DP is working in Lion!
Will be really interesting to see if DP is working in Lion!
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Re: Is Lion out?
No reason that 5.13 on shouldn't work in Lion but one never knows until it is tried.FutureLegends wrote:Yeah, rumour says tomorrow.
Will be really interesting to see if DP is working in Lion!
Installing 5 shouldn't work because the 5 installer is PPC. The 6 installer is UB I believe. I will be trying both out soon enough, I suppose - not that I have to but I will be curious.
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Man... I may have to hold off. I just remembered that Unisyn will be DEAD to me then and I'm not sure just now if I don't have banks saved in Unisyn that I might need. Hmmm....
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Well, I guess I really meant 'it will be interesting to see if DP works without issues'.mikehalloran wrote:No reason that 5.13 on shouldn't work in Lion but one never knows until it is tried.
It's been said that PT9 isn't working at all in Lion so obviously things can happen. Now PT is notorious for being sensitive to even smal incremental updates of the system.
I'm well aware that theoretically it should work. But still I'm not taking it for granted at all that it will. That's why I'm curious to see what the situation will be.
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Re: Is Lion out?
>Now PT is notorious for being sensitive to even smal incremental updates of the system. <
Remember how long it took them to get to OS X, then 10.5? They've known about this as long as anyone.
I will likely be an early adopter, waiting only a few days to take the plunge. Because of my handicap, I am looking forward to some of the new features.
At the moment, I have no DP projects under deadline so, if necessary, I can go back to SL or upgrade to DP7 as I see fit if everything doesn't just work.
If DP 5 and 6 work for me, I will try installing them on my daughter's machine - just to see if I can. She has no interest in them so, successful or not, I will be removing them as soon as I see how the installers behave.
I imagine the boards will be jumping for a while.
Remember how long it took them to get to OS X, then 10.5? They've known about this as long as anyone.
I will likely be an early adopter, waiting only a few days to take the plunge. Because of my handicap, I am looking forward to some of the new features.
At the moment, I have no DP projects under deadline so, if necessary, I can go back to SL or upgrade to DP7 as I see fit if everything doesn't just work.
If DP 5 and 6 work for me, I will try installing them on my daughter's machine - just to see if I can. She has no interest in them so, successful or not, I will be removing them as soon as I see how the installers behave.
I imagine the boards will be jumping for a while.
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I'll not be an early adopter, but I'll be watching the comments!
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For Quicken users...just received via email. Quicken is not compatible.
http://quicken.intuit.com/support/artic ... /8207.html
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http://quicken.intuit.com/support/artic ... /8207.html
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Haven't got my email from them yet,m but that's a deal breaker.buzzsmith wrote:For Quicken users...just received via email. Quicken is not compatible.
http://quicken.intuit.com/support/artic ... /8207.html
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Re: Is Lion out?
Hmmmm... I heard Quicken was near death or practically dead already (can't vouch for the source, though).MIDI Life Crisis wrote:Haven't got my email from them yet,m but that's a deal breaker.buzzsmith wrote:For Quicken users...just received via email. Quicken is not compatible.
http://quicken.intuit.com/support/artic ... /8207.html
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I'm using QuickBooks 2006 for Windows. I can still run it on XP. I switched over to the Windows version from MacOS years ago because it just seemed that Intuit wasn't keeping feature parity with the Mac version.
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Re: Is Lion out?
Intuit?
Do not get me started except to say that, for the millions of dollars that they make from the Mac community, a little attention to updating their non TurboTax products would be nice.
Actual conversation at MacWorld a few years back:
Me: "You are telling me to violate my license and install this onto a PC so that I can generate this one form not available in the Mac version. Then I have type the data into the Mac version because I cannot copy the data. You really mean this?"
Intuit: "Yes."
Do not get me started except to say that, for the millions of dollars that they make from the Mac community, a little attention to updating their non TurboTax products would be nice.
Actual conversation at MacWorld a few years back:
Me: "You are telling me to violate my license and install this onto a PC so that I can generate this one form not available in the Mac version. Then I have type the data into the Mac version because I cannot copy the data. You really mean this?"
Intuit: "Yes."
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Is Lion out?
Intuit has a headquarters out here. I have friends who used to work there. I don't know if things have changed, but you'd be shocked (or perhaps not) to learn just how understaffed even their Mac TurboTax effort was.
That said, I use the Mac version of Turbo Tax every year. One of those years I had a near panic situation as I could not directly print my forms for filing to my laser printer. I had to print to a PDF and then print the PDF from Adobe Reader as I recall. (No-- I don't like to efile.)

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