V.I. and MIDI track
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- dado
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V.I. and MIDI track
Hello everybody, this is a stupid question I know, but I would like to know why in DP to open a V.I. I need to open two tracks, one for MIDI and one for V.I. I must know because I told to a friend of mine to jump on DP. He work on LogicPro and told me he don't need to open two separate tracks for MIDI and VI. Thanks to everybody
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Re: V.I. and MIDI track
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I don't think it's a big deal...
Besides, this allows for more flexibility, as far as I'm concerned. It's just DP's way of working, and it makes PERFECT SENSE.
Show your L friend all the things you can do with DP. He will turn green with envy like this:
, but not with a stupid smile.
Besides, if for some strange reason this would be a deal-killer for you, you can always use Clippings or use templates, so you don't even have to create any new tracks. Just take the time to set them up the way you like, and watch how by dragging and dropping (not that dropping) you get whatever you put in the clipping back in your session in under 2 seconds, everything pre-configured and routed.
With this, your L friend will not turn green but more like purple with envy
I don't think it's a big deal...
Besides, this allows for more flexibility, as far as I'm concerned. It's just DP's way of working, and it makes PERFECT SENSE.
Show your L friend all the things you can do with DP. He will turn green with envy like this:

Besides, if for some strange reason this would be a deal-killer for you, you can always use Clippings or use templates, so you don't even have to create any new tracks. Just take the time to set them up the way you like, and watch how by dragging and dropping (not that dropping) you get whatever you put in the clipping back in your session in under 2 seconds, everything pre-configured and routed.
With this, your L friend will not turn green but more like purple with envy

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"In physics the truth is rarely perfectly clear, and that is certainly universally the case in human affairs. Hence, what is not surrounded by uncertainty cannot be the truth." ― Richard Feynman
Tascam DM-24, MOTU Track 16, all Spectrasonics' stuff,
Vienna Instruments SUPER PACKAGE, Waves Mercury, slaved iMac and Mac Minis running VEP 7, etc.
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"In physics the truth is rarely perfectly clear, and that is certainly universally the case in human affairs. Hence, what is not surrounded by uncertainty cannot be the truth." ― Richard Feynman
Re: V.I. and MIDI track
More specifically, it is a MIDI channel per track.
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Re: V.I. and MIDI track
By keeping instrument tracks separate from MIDI tracks, MIDI is more flexible and inuitive to deal with. You can use different MIDI tracks, each with different MIDI plugins such as arpeggiators, MIDI effect, controller reassignments, etc to drive the same or overlapping sets of VIs, and it all shows up clearly right on your mixing board.
And by the way, MIDI tracks are in reality different entities from the instruments they drive, so it's a conceptually cleaner and more accurate representation of the way things really work. That allows you to get fancier with routing while keeping things clear and organized.
And by the way, MIDI tracks are in reality different entities from the instruments they drive, so it's a conceptually cleaner and more accurate representation of the way things really work. That allows you to get fancier with routing while keeping things clear and organized.
Re: V.I. and MIDI track
This is a good thing.
Last night I was recording a part with B4II.
I decided I didn't really know if the organ was right so I added an Electric Keys EP and just assigned the MIDI channel to it.
I do this all the time.
Last night I was recording a part with B4II.
I decided I didn't really know if the organ was right so I added an Electric Keys EP and just assigned the MIDI channel to it.
I do this all the time.
Re: V.I. and MIDI track
Agreed, it's most definitely a strength, not a weakness.
Just ask your friend to show you how he runs a multi-timbral VI in Logic, he he he...

Just ask your friend to show you how he runs a multi-timbral VI in Logic, he he he...

- Shooshie
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Re: V.I. and MIDI track
DP keeps a continuity between external hardware and internal VI's, so that they appear and are accessed in the same way. The instrument "track" is a place -- a tangible thing or virtual instrument -- which you can see and associate with the instrument(s) you want to create and use. You can assign as many MIDI tracks as you want to the VI's MIDI channels.
Most multi-timbral VIs allow you to assign either all instruments to one audio output, or assign each to its own audio track. Again, this is consistent with the way MIDI gear generally works if it has multiple outputs.
You can put ALL your instruments into a V-Rack if you like. I find this to be so easy and convenient that other methods seem silly to me now. But if you're new to it, I'm sure it feels awkward at first. Just think in terms of actual hardware with its own MIDI input and audio outputs.
Shooshie
Most multi-timbral VIs allow you to assign either all instruments to one audio output, or assign each to its own audio track. Again, this is consistent with the way MIDI gear generally works if it has multiple outputs.
You can put ALL your instruments into a V-Rack if you like. I find this to be so easy and convenient that other methods seem silly to me now. But if you're new to it, I'm sure it feels awkward at first. Just think in terms of actual hardware with its own MIDI input and audio outputs.
Shooshie
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