LASS opinion wanted
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LASS opinion wanted
Hi guys, I'm thinking to buy LASS. I need some opinions about the minimum requirement. I know from audiobro web they say that the minimum req is G4 1.4 GHz or Intel® Core™ Duo 1.66 GHz, 1GB RAM. But I want to hear some experience from the current user. Like what is the real min req if let say I want to use LASS with all the divisi without rendering the MIDI track? How many patches can I use without having a glitches or latency? Also I heard that you can use 2 computers to run this program. How does this works? I never use this method before to run any other virtual instrument. Any thoughts, suggestion or comment please!
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G5 PPC 2.3 Ghz 6GB Memory OS 10.4.11. Macbook Pro Intel Core 2 duo 2.4 Ghz, 2GB Memory OS 10.5.8?
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G5 PPC 2.3 Ghz 6GB Memory OS 10.4.11. Macbook Pro Intel Core 2 duo 2.4 Ghz, 2GB Memory OS 10.5.8?
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Re: LASS opinion wanted
You need a really fast machine, or better yet 2 machines, to operate all of LASS in divisi as you described, without rendering MIDI. The most important thing is the speed of the hard drive (s), since the samples are streaming from disk. One 7200 RPM SATA drive won't get you very far, I'm afraid..
I have LASS over 2 Mac Pro's with Vienna Ensemble Pro. I have a RAID 0 configuration on the slave machine, and that seems to help a lot, but I'm about to replace that with a dedicated SSD (solid state drive) and run LASS almost exclusively on that machine.
I have LASS over 2 Mac Pro's with Vienna Ensemble Pro. I have a RAID 0 configuration on the slave machine, and that seems to help a lot, but I'm about to replace that with a dedicated SSD (solid state drive) and run LASS almost exclusively on that machine.
DP11, 2019 16-Core Mac Pro, OS 14 Sonoma , 64GB RAM. RME HDSPe MADI FX to SSL Alphalink to SSL Matrix console, and multiple digital sub consoles. UAD Quad PCIe. Outboard stuff.
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Re: LASS opinion wanted
Thanks for the reply. I've heard about the VEP. But the thing is VEP only works for Leopard and I'm still on Tiger 10.4.11. I have G5 PPC 2.3 Ghz (running 10.4.11) and MBP 2.4 Intel Core 2 duo (running 10.5.6). So I'm thinking is it possible that I use the MBP to load all the LASS and use it as a slave for the G5...BUT without using VEP? I've read the article about MIDI networking from http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar07/a ... p_0307.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; . It works well actually except for the latency thing. I try to run just 1 track of Ivory from MBP and connect it with the G5 but there was a big latency and also glitches. Am I doing the wrong thing here? Or is there any other way to do the master-slave thing without using VEP?
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Re: LASS opinion wanted
I have LASS running basically everything except the glissando patches on an i7 920 off of one WD Caviar and it takes A LOT to choke that machine up. I haven't really done any quantitative stress testing but unless I arm every track and drop elbows on my controller then there aren't any problems.Killahurts wrote:You need a really fast machine, or better yet 2 machines, to operate all of LASS in divisi as you described, without rendering MIDI.
My understanding is that AK (LASS developer) wanted to be SUPER conservative in system recommendations (the opposite of most devs) so he threw out the 2 system "super rig" suggestion. AFAIK, there are a lot of users getting good results with just one dedicated slave.
John Rodriguez - Composer for Media
Mac Pro 2.8, 14 GB RAM, 10.6.1, i7 920, 12 GB RAM, Windows 7
DP7.02, VE PRO Public Beta, Bidule 0.9695, Altiverb 6, Ozone 3
Vienna Instruments, Kontakt 3.5, PLAY 1.2.5, Spectrasonics Bundle
Mac Pro 2.8, 14 GB RAM, 10.6.1, i7 920, 12 GB RAM, Windows 7
DP7.02, VE PRO Public Beta, Bidule 0.9695, Altiverb 6, Ozone 3
Vienna Instruments, Kontakt 3.5, PLAY 1.2.5, Spectrasonics Bundle
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Re: LASS opinion wanted
Yes you're right about Andrew being conservative. But I only have my own experiences to go on, and my slave, like yours, is a pretty fast machine.jroadrage wrote:My understanding is that AK (LASS developer) wanted to be SUPER conservative in system recommendations (the opposite of most devs) so he threw out the 2 system "super rig" suggestion. AFAIK, there are a lot of users getting good results with just one dedicated slave.
rickindies, if you want to use the MBP as a dedicated slave, it might work.. but again, if anything slows you down is going to be the hard drive, especially on the laptop. I would say to try it.. if you do get glitches etc., try a SSD. I got a 128 GB one for $230 at Fry's a couple weeks ago.
As far as latency goes, VE Pro is the best solution I've come across, and it wasn't that expensive, IIRC.
OTOH, you might be fine with the system you have, the only way to know is to try it!

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Re: LASS opinion wanted
That's always good advice. No reason to rush out and buy anything until you test drive it on your current system.Killahurts wrote: OTOH, you might be fine with the system you have, the only way to know is to try it!
John Rodriguez - Composer for Media
Mac Pro 2.8, 14 GB RAM, 10.6.1, i7 920, 12 GB RAM, Windows 7
DP7.02, VE PRO Public Beta, Bidule 0.9695, Altiverb 6, Ozone 3
Vienna Instruments, Kontakt 3.5, PLAY 1.2.5, Spectrasonics Bundle
Mac Pro 2.8, 14 GB RAM, 10.6.1, i7 920, 12 GB RAM, Windows 7
DP7.02, VE PRO Public Beta, Bidule 0.9695, Altiverb 6, Ozone 3
Vienna Instruments, Kontakt 3.5, PLAY 1.2.5, Spectrasonics Bundle