New Waves Plugs

[waterstrum]

Waves released a couple of new plugs today.
http://www.waves.com/content.aspx?id=10340" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.waves.com/content.aspx?id=10341" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Both are working well with DP7.1, no problems here.

So far, I'm thinking they sound pretty sweet, but I haven't had much time to mess with them.

[Xzault]

Yes I saw this yesterday from their email blast I am downloading today to check them out!

[Shooshie]

New Wave Plugs? I thought New Wave went out years ago.



Shoosh

[Tritonemusic]

New Wave Plugs? I thought New Wave went out years ago.

Ouch!

[Xzault]

I downloaded them and they sound great i really like the comp and eq i do want waves to do a saturation plug and tape emulation and get it for free with my support subscription

[scooter]

This is great news. I'm a proud Mercury bundle owner.
To be sure it set me back a few dinaro.
But since I bought it I've gotten all the Eddie Kramer plugs and all the Tony Maserati plugs, vocal rider, (although I haven't used that one) etc.......

I'm not bragging, but it really turned out to be a great investment.
They're all serious quality plug-ins and work really well (since around Waves 6) with DP.

I know there are those who, to put it bluntly, hate Waves. Don't think I haven't noticed the negative remarks aimed at this company on this website.
But I'm a real fan of Waves.
Okey Dokey.

scooter

[KEVORKIAN]

The PIE Compressor is really something! The quality of the recent Waves plugs is really high.

[James Steele]

To Scooter: I would make a point to say that many of us here don't hate Waves, we just go out of our way to find alternatives to their plugs to avoid WUP.

[Shooshie]

This is great news. I'm a proud Mercury bundle owner.
To be sure it set me back a few dinaro.
But since I bought it I've gotten all the Eddie Kramer plugs and all the Tony Maserati plugs, vocal rider, (although I haven't used that one) etc.......

I'm not bragging, but it really turned out to be a great investment.
They're all serious quality plug-ins and work really well (since around Waves 6) with DP.

I know there are those who, to put it bluntly, hate Waves. Don't think I haven't noticed the negative remarks aimed at this company on this website.
But I'm a real fan of Waves.
Okey Dokey.

scooter

Well, to be sure I've had my run-ins with Waves. They simply treated me with inexcusable behavior because I use DP. I mean, they flat out said so. I had one product of theirs which would not authorize at all on my computer, due to a mistake in the programming of their authorization scheme: the L3 MultiMaximizer would not authorize because they saw that the Platinum Bundle had already authorized the free version of it: the L3 UltraMaximizer. For ten months I had to go without the plugin for which I had paid close to $400. (it lists for $620 as of this writing)

Then finally, after dozens of calls, I managed to get someone on the line who listened to me, and who realized it wasn't a DP related problem. When he realized it was their error, he told me he'd have a programmer write me an installer/authorizer, and it would be ready the next day. He was true to his word, and the lady programmer who sent it to me walked me through it on the phone. It worked.

So, I realize that Waves has its good people and bad people, like any company. I'm very grateful to the man and woman who eventually helped me (after 10 month of dealing with laughing jackasses).

Then there's WUP. I really don't like having to pay them $350 to get current any more often than is absolutely required. I think that's a fairly normal reaction from anyone who is conscious of the diminishing economy that's cut into our lives, no matter how much we earn. But I'll pay it when version 6.0 finally stops working with my upgrades. At least they no longer charge you for the years you skipped. I once had to pay around $700 to renew WUP for 3 years, back when a single year only went for about $120. Then they dropped support of DP for about 18 months. To placate me they extended my WUP for 6 months, so I figure they still owe me about a year. They think otherwise, so naturally there's a difference of opinion there.

That makes it hard for me to really LIKE the company. But I've never once said that I didn't like their plugins. Their plugins are fantastic. Period. The Platinum Bundle was a great investment, even it if it actually costs me more to keep current for it and the couple of other plugins I have bought, than for someone who owns ALL their plugins (Mercury Bundle).

No apologies here. I tell it like it is. I've simply told what the company has done to me. What have I done to the company? Send it money. Again and again and again. I've asked for help when their product didn't work for 10 months. I was always courteous and polite. I was laughed at and ridiculed for using DP. I was told to get Logic. When I told them I had Logic, but their plugin wouldn't authorize for ANY app, they basically ignored me, preferring to laugh at DP than to get to work trying to help me. Not all of them, but several did. That's inexcusable. DAMNED inexcusable.

But I love their plugins. What's a musician to do? I repeat the story when it comes up, and I compliment Waves on their recent products that all seem to work. I explain that I really dislike being taken advantage of by Waves, but that I feel at this time that I cannot justify leaving behind the plugins I've bought. They are simply too good. I reconcile the differences in that the idiots who were rude are low-level employees who have nothing to do with the creation of the fine plugins they sell. Keeping them separate, I do my best not to pay their salaries, but I occasionally do pay for updates or buy a new plugin.

It's complicated, but then isn't everything? It's best that people know what they're getting into before they pay for it. Hearing both sides of the Waves story is a good thing.

Shooshie

[Tonio Ruiz]

I like Waves plug-ins a lot, I recently bought the CLA classic compressors bundle and all I can say is that they are very very very nice sounding plugs... they worth every cent spent

I haven't tried the new ones but they look yummy

[rainmaker]

Over this last Holiday season I took advantage of the 50% Mercury Bundle upgrade from Diamond. I am very happy I did. I have found that once I made the investment, It pays off every year when my WUP is only $180 and every new plugin they come out with is included. And like others have said, their plugins are damn fantastic. I love the new PIE compressor. Can't wait for what's to come. Especially since they're all free!

If you're at all interested in owning a significant amount of Waves plugins, Mercury is actually a great deal and the WUP becomes an extremely cheap way to get all their new plugins for $180 a year. I went from paying about $350 for WUP with no new plugins included to $180 and everything they make is included. I have to say that if they add just a couple more plugins such as a couple more great reverbs, tape simulator, special effects then I could see myself using only Waves plugins with no need for anything else. And I think that's what they obviously want.

Rainmaker

[scooter]

we just go out of our way to find alternatives to their plugs to avoid WUP.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. And I can see how that can be a legitimate complaint.

For those who aren't familiar with Waves, WUP is the Waves Update Plan.
I think it's free for the first year but then you need to pay a yearly fee to stay current (new versions of Wave) and they throw in a few new plugs.

I think Shooshie sums it up by saying it's complicated. Everyone will have a different perspective on how much a certain product is worth. Tech support is obviously an important part of the equation. And some will be luckier than others with their experiences with a company and said product. I'm definitely one of the luckier ones in this case. So I'll keep my fingers crossed with Waves. I'm can be pretty fickled and it doesn't take much for me to come down on something.

scooter