Snow is cool.After capture, the images are processed with Adobe Photoshop and Igor Pro analysis software from WaveMetrics Inc. But the new plan is to move to a custom application written in C, largely because of its ability to take advantage of Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard). With Igor Pro and Photoshop, processing takes an hour for a high-resolution image and 20 minutes for a medium-resolution image. But after the switch to the C program, processing with the Snow Leopard version should be almost immediate, based on the testing that's been conducted
Using Mac Pros to reprocess 40 year old lunar images
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Using Mac Pros to reprocess 40 year old lunar images
I figure most of you tech heads would enjoy this story. Reprocessing the data stored on ancient tapes of lunar scan imagery taken prior to the Apollo mission. It involves hunting down and refurbishing ancient tape decks and processing the original scan data with Mac Pros. It is all interesting but the snow leopard jaw dropper for me reads:
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Is it snow or C or both? Very interesting.
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It is a combination of things. Photoshow and Igor are written in C, but they're written assuming a single processor in the old style (pre snow leopard). Most probably the new program uses the new snow leopard tricks and grand central dispatch to spread the image processing out into many 'tiles' processes each on a different processor, then reassembling them at the end.twistedtom wrote:Is it snow or C or both? Very interesting.
We are using a tiny fraction of the power of our machines right now. Snow Leopard should change that for programs rewritten or restructured to take advantage of it.
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Re: Using Mac Pros to reprocess 40 year old lunar images
SixStringGeek wrote:I figure most of you tech heads would enjoy this story. Reprocessing the data stored on ancient tapes of lunar scan imagery taken prior to the Apollo mission. It involves hunting down and refurbishing ancient tape decks and processing the original scan data with Mac Pros. It is all interesting but the snow leopard jaw dropper for me reads:
Snow is cool.After capture, the images are processed with Adobe Photoshop and Igor Pro analysis software from WaveMetrics Inc. But the new plan is to move to a custom application written in C, largely because of its ability to take advantage of Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard). With Igor Pro and Photoshop, processing takes an hour for a high-resolution image and 20 minutes for a medium-resolution image. But after the switch to the C program, processing with the Snow Leopard version should be almost immediate, based on the testing that's been conducted
WOW! Snow Leopard looks cool enough that I might actually want to upgrade my Mac to a newer Intel based Mac!

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They should work on some of the Kennedy assassination photos and find the second gunman.
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That might take a little longer, even under Snow Leopard, to resolve.
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Re: Using Mac Pros to reprocess 40 year old lunar images
Actually, to take advantage of the Grand Central Dispatch the programs have to be rewritten. We have yet to see the slew of freshly overhauled DAWs, plugins, etc. coming like tidal wave atop the Snow Leopard. And most likely there will be no backward compatibility with Leopard vulgaris.kgdrum wrote: WOW! Snow Leopard looks cool enough that I might actually want to upgrade my Mac to a newer Intel based Mac!
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Not so much rewritten (which sounds like a lot of work and it is) as restructured or refactored - which has been shown to be not all that much work relative to what you get.michkhol wrote:Actually, to take advantage of the Grand Central Dispatch the programs have to be rewritten. We have yet to see the slew of freshly overhauled DAWs, plugins, etc. coming like tidal wave atop the Snow Leopard. And most likely there will be no backward compatibility with Leopard vulgaris.kgdrum wrote: WOW! Snow Leopard looks cool enough that I might actually want to upgrade my Mac to a newer Intel based Mac!
You are correct that once a program goes snow then it requires snow. Programs that desire to maintain backwards compatibility will have to be maintained in two versions for a little while.
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