DP 6 more hassle than it's worth?

[zedboy]

I bought 6 when it came out, but stayed with 5.13 because of all the horror stories. I downloaded 6.01 but still have not installed. I know there are threads all over about this, but is 6 the most troublesome version yet (I've been on DP since it was just P)? Will I regret (this calls for considerable speculation since you don't know me) not waiting for the most likely more stable 6.1?
My setup:
Mac G5 dual 1.8 OS 10.4.11 4GB RAM 828mkII, Kontakt 2 and 3, SampleTank 2.5, Miroslav Philharmonik, Amplitube 2,
T-Racks 1.x, Melodyne 1.04, Drumcore & Kitcore, other stuff that probably doesn't matter, oh yeah DP 5.13
Thanks
Michael

[hrw]

There are so many threads about this on this forum to read related to this.
After a while i found DP6 and 6.01 unusable with its lack of stability and crashing oddities and went back to 5.13 which is so solid for me.
6.01 is however working well apparently for some people... i'm not one of them. You prob need to get a feel for how many people its working WELL for and how many its not and make an educated decision.
It gave me a lot of heartache for a little while. i hope you don't experience the same.
Good luck and all the best.
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[Mr_Clifford]

...but is 6 the most troublesome version yet (I've been on DP since it was just P)?

Nope. Remember all the hassles when DP5 first came out? - Like a crash if you tried to edge edit soundbites on tracks that were grouped (that one persisted right up to 5.1). For me DP 6.01 still has a few little issues, mostly minor, but it hasn't crashed on me and it's generally working very well. I was pleasantly surprised, as I also held out for quite a while before I installed it.

If you're nervous, stick on DP 5.13. It's a really solid, reliable version. The MW Leveler, Pro Verb, and new comp tool are really good though......

[James Steele]

I think it really depends on the processor type and OS you're using. I'm having a pretty good DP 6.01 experience since I went back to Tiger from Leopard. Keep in mind Leopard is great for the Intel machines, but if you're using a PPC Mac with DP 6.01, Leopard can cause problems with some-- I repeat SOME-- Native Instruments VIs.

[kassonica]

Outside of some minor glitches and 2 crashes after nearly 2 months of A LOT OF USE and in front of clients.

Tis working for me and when the update come out hopefully they would of fixed some more things.

[Tomrabbit]

Zed, I have the same machine, OS version and ram as you.

Dp 6.01 is working pretty well here. I don't have all the 3rd party plugs you do so I can't speak there. And my projects are not real big ones. Most posters here with the largest projects have the most problems, I think.

And I would suggest you try 6 on another HD/partition ( boot ) . Then you'll still have your 5 version untouched. Drives are cheap right now too.

Good Luck

[peppersax]

Okay, I got some of the same DP 6 issues. I purchased DP 6 last week and installed it the other day. It won't open after I launch it. It will install almost everything and then it crashes with that FRICKIN' error message that everyone knows, "Digital Performer quit unexpectedly". Okay, so I said to myself, "What the Hell, I'll just go back to DP 5 (which is stable) and continue working"...............What the heck?!! Now, DP5 opens but won't output any of my virtual instruments sounds, i,e Atmosphere, Stylus, Symphonic Symphony, etc.,when I 'Add an Instrument'. So far, my thanksgiving day has become a REAL TURKEY (pun intended). If anyone can help, I'm all ears!.

Thanks!

Pepper

[emulatorloo]

If you did a search through the archive you will find threads along the lines of:

DP 4 more hassle than it's worth?
DP 4.5 more hassle than it's worth?
DP 5 more hassle than it's worth?
DP 5.1 more hassle than it's worth?

etc.

Remember that "complaint internet groups" are for people to complain. You can't judge on "horror stories" on a complaint board -- you dont know whether the person's hard drive is failing, they have a bad ram stick, their audio drivers are out of date, or what. People who have working systems are unlikely to post endless posts like:

HELP!!!!! DP 6 IS WORKING ON MY MACHINE!!!!!!!

If you are super worried, back up your harddrive with "superduper" before you install. That way you can restore without too much trouble if things go wrong.

[kats_corner]

I'll admit, I had a few getting-used-to-the-changes issues at first; but overall the only real issue I have any longer (and this may well be due to some as-yet-unknown-to-me issue with a PPC platform) is that I cannot seem to export things to 32-bit float (DP curls up heels and goes away), nor will it re-open a project recorded in 32-bit float (tries to tell me it's an unsupported 64-bit integer format - but DP did the original recording...?). As long as I stay with 16 or 24 bit integer formats, all is well for me.

And yes, I love the LA-2A leveller, ProVerb, and comp tool also!

(portable rig, minimal requirements setup: G4 iBook with 1GB ram, OSX 10.4.8, 828mk2)

For what it's worth.

[bOing]

I bought 6 when it came out, but stayed with 5.13 because of all the horror stories. I downloaded 6.01 but still have not installed. I know there are threads all over about this, but is 6 the most troublesome version yet (I've been on DP since it was just P)? Will I regret (this calls for considerable speculation since you don't know me) not waiting for the most likely more stable 6.1?
My setup:
Mac G5 dual 1.8 OS 10.4.11 4GB RAM 828mkII, Kontakt 2 and 3, SampleTank 2.5, Miroslav Philharmonik, Amplitube 2,
T-Racks 1.x, Melodyne 1.04, Drumcore & Kitcore, other stuff that probably doesn't matter, oh yeah DP 5.13
Thanks
Michael

I also have the same machine, RAM, OS - and I'm practically your neighbour.

I think it's very much dependent upon what you're doing at the time. I get beachballs on some projects, others not. I get weird loud distortion from ONE Nomad plugin and crackling when I turn the dials on the other Nomads. This doesn't happen in other apps., nor with other plugs in DP. I think I'm learning to lower my expectations and farm out other chores like time stretching to more capable apps. Other than that, I'm contentedly waiting for the next upgrade.

[Eleventh Hour Sound]

Okay, I got some of the same DP 6 issues. I purchased DP 6 last week and installed it the other day. It won't open after I launch it. It will install almost everything and then it crashes with that FRICKIN' error message that everyone knows, "Digital Performer quit unexpectedly". Okay, so I said to myself, "What the Hell, I'll just go back to DP 5 (which is stable) and continue working"...............What the heck?!! Now, DP5 opens but won't output any of my virtual instruments sounds, i,e Atmosphere, Stylus, Symphonic Symphony, etc.,when I 'Add an Instrument'. So far, my thanksgiving day has become a REAL TURKEY (pun intended). If anyone can help, I'm all ears!.

Thanks!

Pepper

What's your system configuration? Which OS? Which computer? How much Ram?

With the little bit of information you gave, If you just need to get back to where you were, I would uninstall DP6 and reinstall DP5.

DP 6.01 is very solid for me right now on either my PPC or Intel machine. T-Racks 1.2 could cause crashes, Any Amplitube plug in in a mono-stereo config can cause a crash...

[mhschmieder]

In spite of various problems that I have reported from time to time, I have never looked back.

The productivity gains and more intuitive and flexible workflow in DP6 more than make up for the glitches, all of which have workarounds and are visibly and audibly obvious and therefore not threatening to the integrity of a project (unless one is asleep at the wheel).

I just remembered last night another important new feature that I had forgotten to try out and which would make a huge difference when I'm tracking or overdubbing live material vs. rendering MIDI: direct hardware playthrough. I remember reading that DP 6 would support this feature for non-MOTU hardware, such as RME Fireface 800. I aim to check this out tomorrow.

[zedboy]

"Any Amplitube plug in in a mono-stereo config can cause a crash..."

This is the same in DP 5. SampleTank has the same problem. Not Miroslav Philharmonik oddly.

Thanks for all of the advice. I think I'm going to wait a bit longer. I was thinking that Christmas season downtime would be a good time to mess around, but I'll try and wait for the next upgrade

[Eleventh Hour Sound]

"Any Amplitube plug in in a mono-stereo config can cause a crash..."

This is the same in DP 5. SampleTank has the same problem. Not Miroslav Philharmonik oddly.

Thanks for all of the advice. I think I'm going to wait a bit longer. I was thinking that Christmas season downtime would be a good time to mess around, but I'll try and wait for the next upgrade

I would say 6.01 is worth the hassle, I'm using it full time now. You've just got to sift through the problem plug ins and either create work arounds or get rid of them.

[James Steele]

T-Racks 1.2 could cause crashes,

Not sure if this is a typo, but the latest version (prior to the big 3.0 upgrade recently) is 1.3. You might check to see if you have the latest. I have 1.3 and don't have problems in DP 6.01.