I'm really new and know nothing about macs....
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I'm really new and know nothing about macs....
I'm seriously considering purchasing a mac as well as DP in order to be compatible with a couple of other studios here in my town. I'm marginally a PC guy and know nothing about Apple machines. Can anyone suggest which mac to buy, along with specifications etc. etc. Budget is 3-5 thousand dollars. Thanks for any replies.
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Re: I'm really new and know nothing about macs....
3-5K should get you a nice G5, couple of 19" float panels and DP, maybe with a little extra to spare!
G5 - $2500
http://www.apple.com/macpro/
Flat Panels - $220 http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?lev ... &An=browse
DP - $500
http://www.zzounds.com/item--MTUDPERFMAC
4GB of RAM - $405
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20 ... FB1GD4GBK/
We're at $3625. I'd suggest MachFive from MOTU, but it is not Intel compatible until they release version 2 (don't hold your breath). Grab Plug Sound Pro and or something Lke Garritan (is it Intel yet?) Hexk, you still have a binch of $$$ left over! You might want MS Office to do your billing
Yeah, you can do ti!
G5 - $2500
http://www.apple.com/macpro/
Flat Panels - $220 http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?lev ... &An=browse
DP - $500
http://www.zzounds.com/item--MTUDPERFMAC
4GB of RAM - $405
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20 ... FB1GD4GBK/
We're at $3625. I'd suggest MachFive from MOTU, but it is not Intel compatible until they release version 2 (don't hold your breath). Grab Plug Sound Pro and or something Lke Garritan (is it Intel yet?) Hexk, you still have a binch of $$$ left over! You might want MS Office to do your billing

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With a ceiling of $5k, there are a few ways you could go.
I have to disagree with MIDI Life Crisis and suggest an Intel based Mac. The older G5s, while a good bargain, are not a good choice for a native DAW when the Core 2 Duo Macs are so much more powerful (more plugins, more tracks, more VIs)...which equates to a longer stretch before you'll find a need to upgrade.
The question really becomes - what kind of projects will you be involved in (how many tracks, how many VIs, how much audio vs. MIDI), whether you need a portable system for location work, and how much space you can devote to the setup.
The highest performance comes from the Mac Pros. The iMacs are a nice compromise for smaller spaces (and budgets), they're not as expandable but can handle some decent sized projects. For those that need a portable solution the MacBook or MacBook Pros are the key (I use a MacBook Pro). I would avoid the Mac Mini because of its slower I/O and inferior video. Though, I use one as a backup server - and it's perfect for that.
I have to disagree with MIDI Life Crisis and suggest an Intel based Mac. The older G5s, while a good bargain, are not a good choice for a native DAW when the Core 2 Duo Macs are so much more powerful (more plugins, more tracks, more VIs)...which equates to a longer stretch before you'll find a need to upgrade.
The question really becomes - what kind of projects will you be involved in (how many tracks, how many VIs, how much audio vs. MIDI), whether you need a portable system for location work, and how much space you can devote to the setup.
The highest performance comes from the Mac Pros. The iMacs are a nice compromise for smaller spaces (and budgets), they're not as expandable but can handle some decent sized projects. For those that need a portable solution the MacBook or MacBook Pros are the key (I use a MacBook Pro). I would avoid the Mac Mini because of its slower I/O and inferior video. Though, I use one as a backup server - and it's perfect for that.
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Me thinks I'be been mis-read. I suggested a spankin' new Mac Pro! I did start with the entry level model, but with the extra $$$ he could also add a faster CPU and bigger HD. I would NOT suggest a used machine unless you are on a tight budget. I ALWAYS get the newest model when I upgrade. Not worth trying to play catch up later.sdemott wrote:With a ceiling of $5k, there are a few ways you could go.
I have to disagree with MIDI Life Crisis and suggest an Intel based Mac.
So I think we are actually in 100% AGREEMENT
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Exactly -- I've been with DP since 2.x, and I just bought a MacPro 2.66 for $2199 on the Apple Store, check the red tag deals, you can find everything there, although they tend to run out and re-stock them on sort of a weekly basis.
Then I got 4G ram from owc (macsales.com) $469
And 2 super-fast Raptors 150g 10k drive from newegg.com, $209 ea
You will NOT be sorry with this machine. It will scream.
Pick your interface depending on what you need channels/inputs/outputs.
DP, some plugs... you'll be stylin'
Then I got 4G ram from owc (macsales.com) $469
And 2 super-fast Raptors 150g 10k drive from newegg.com, $209 ea
You will NOT be sorry with this machine. It will scream.
Pick your interface depending on what you need channels/inputs/outputs.
DP, some plugs... you'll be stylin'
MacPro 2x2.66, 5G ram, 1 SATA, 2 raptors, 2408 mk3, MOTU HD192, Mackie MCU
Dual 2.0g G5, 7g ram, 1 SATA drive, 1 IDE drive, Duende, Liquid Mix, UAD-1,
OS X 10.4.11, DP 5.13, MOTU 2408mk3, BFD, RMX, Atmosphere, EWQLSO Gold XP, Ethno, Grace m906, Blue Sky 5.1 monitors
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Dual 2.0g G5, 7g ram, 1 SATA drive, 1 IDE drive, Duende, Liquid Mix, UAD-1,
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This is great. I just love speanding other peoples money 
So, where are we going for vaccation?

So, where are we going for vaccation?
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My bad - having a 5 week old has left me severely sleep deprived...so even when I stare at all the pretty symbols they don't always make sense as a language anymoreMIDI Life Crisis wrote:Me thinks I'be been mis-read. I suggested a spankin' new Mac Pro! I did start with the entry level model, but with the extra $$$ he could also add a faster CPU and bigger HD. I would NOT suggest a used machine unless you are on a tight budget. I ALWAYS get the newest model when I upgrade. Not worth trying to play catch up later.sdemott wrote:With a ceiling of $5k, there are a few ways you could go.
I have to disagree with MIDI Life Crisis and suggest an Intel based Mac.
So I think we are actually in 100% AGREEMENT

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Hey auptown, what do you think of the Raptors? I'm thinking about getting one.
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I'm running DP on a Mac Pro...Best investment I ever made. I totally agree with the previous suggestions. What's your audio interface?okcrounders wrote:I'm seriously considering purchasing a mac as well as DP in order to be compatible with a couple of other studios here in my town. I'm marginally a PC guy and know nothing about Apple machines. Can anyone suggest which mac to buy, along with specifications etc. etc. Budget is 3-5 thousand dollars. Thanks for any replies.
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I'm not familiar with it, but I hear good things about it. Is this part of your 3-5K budget. You're talking almost a grand right there. Knocks you down to 2-4K for computer and monitor. Still enough for a Mac Pro.okcrounders wrote:Thinking about a MOTU 2048 interface.

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You might also look at M-AUDIO firewire interfaces.okcrounders wrote:Thinking about a MOTU 2048 interface.
http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/F ... -main.html

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I'm a huge fan of the Metric-Halo interfaces. They have converters that rival the big boys (Apogee, Benchmark, et al) and the company is top notch when it comes to support.okcrounders wrote:Thinking about a MOTU 2048 interface.
http://www.mhlabs.com/
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