I'm running DP 5.1 on a Mac Pro, using a ProjectMix as my control surface. Trying to move to a mixerless studio from a mixer-based, tape-based, old-school MIDI setup.
On the audio side, everything's working fine. But I'm having problems getting the MIDI interface on the ProjectMix to work.
In the Apple MIDI setup, I have a mackie control plugged in (via virtual wires) to the ProjectMix device - as described in docs. For a controller, I'm using a Kurzweil SP88x, which is plugged into the virtual PMIO as well. The physical MIDI out from the Kurzweil is going to the MIDI in of the ProjectMix.
This arrangement doesn't work. The "MIDI" light on the ProjectMix stays on, rather than flashing on and off in response to MIDI signals. And I'm unable to get the controller to drive any virtual instruments in DP.
Anyone else have experience (positive or negative) with getting MIDI to work with the ProjectMix? Or can anyone provide basic setup instructions for this configuration? I have an support request in to M-Audio, but I haven't gotten any useful information from them yet. And the docs (as I knew ahead of time) are pretty thin.
ProjectMix, MIDI, and DP 5.1
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I only use it for the faders... and audio i-o... Make sure you have the hardware set up correct
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jlaudon
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you might check at the M-audio forum at audioforums.com, as this seems to be a fairly common problem (the MIDI i/o). I could never get my A90 controller to work right with the MIDI i/o on the PM, always stuck notes, dropped notes, etc... It probably has to do with a buggy driver (my usb oxygen 49 works fine, but of course it isn't plugged into the PM). My A90 also works fine with the MTP/av.
at the audioforum.com posts you can see more stuff about the PM (and M-audio support's slow response as well.
at the audioforum.com posts you can see more stuff about the PM (and M-audio support's slow response as well.
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Mr_Clifford
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I'm running my control keyboard into the MIDI in on the Project Mix as well as running one of my main modules from the MIDI out. I haven't had any problems.
Have you set it up in the Audio/MIDI setup utility? (ie. connected the output of your keyboard icon to the MIDI in of the Project Mix - it's the second 'in' on the icon, the first one represents the control surface). Likewise the MIDI out is the second MIDI out on the Icon.
There doesn't seem to be any way to get a direct MIDI thru happening on the Project Mix, which means that you have to be running DP (or another music program) in order to route the MIDI from the IN to the OUT.
Have you set it up in the Audio/MIDI setup utility? (ie. connected the output of your keyboard icon to the MIDI in of the Project Mix - it's the second 'in' on the icon, the first one represents the control surface). Likewise the MIDI out is the second MIDI out on the Icon.
There doesn't seem to be any way to get a direct MIDI thru happening on the Project Mix, which means that you have to be running DP (or another music program) in order to route the MIDI from the IN to the OUT.
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Thanks for the responses.
Mr. C - yes, I had (by chance) done the MIDI setup correctly in the AudioMidi setup utility, and things still weren't working.
One takeaway from this is that another way to go would be to add a USB MIDI interface directly to the computer and manage the ins and outs to DP that way. Is that correct? Too bad - I thought I could get away without buying another MIDI interface.
Mr. C - yes, I had (by chance) done the MIDI setup correctly in the AudioMidi setup utility, and things still weren't working.
One takeaway from this is that another way to go would be to add a USB MIDI interface directly to the computer and manage the ins and outs to DP that way. Is that correct? Too bad - I thought I could get away without buying another MIDI interface.
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Mr_Clifford
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I wouldn't give up on the Project Mix MIDI port yet. If you only need one MIDI in & out then you shouldn't need to get a separate USB MIDI port.tom24569 wrote:Mr. C - yes, I had (by chance) done the MIDI setup correctly in the AudioMidi setup utility, and things still weren't working.
One takeaway from this is that another way to go would be to add a USB MIDI interface directly to the computer and manage the ins and outs to DP that way. Is that correct? Too bad - I thought I could get away without buying another MIDI interface.
A couple more things you could check, since you seem to have it set up correctly in the Audio/MIDI setup.
-Check that you're not in multi-record mode (studio menu). If you are then check whether the keyboard connected to the PM comes up as an input option.
-In AMS (Audio/MIDI setup), virtually connect a synth icon to the MIDI out of the PM (you don't actually need a real one for this, just tell AMS that you do). Then in DP see if it comes up as a MIDI output option.
---I've just re-read your original post, and the MIDI-light-staying-on thing does sound a bit weird. It might be worth re-installing drivers and checking that you have the latest Firmware in your PM. It's definitely sounding like it could be a device issue. I agree with you about M-Audio's documentation being incredibly light-on.
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Thanks for the suggestions.
Pulling out my trusty old Roland D50, I finally figured out that the problem is that the SP88 controller and the PM aren't getting along. The D50 works fine! It must be something in the nature of the MIDI signal sent out by the Kurzweil.
By the way, in troubleshooting this I noticed M-Audio have a new driver for the PM, posted yesterday. Loading that up didn't help with my SP88 problem, but you might want to grab it.
I guess I'll live with the D50 as my controller for now, but I've got my eye on one of the new M-Audio axioms. Unless someone has a better suggestion!
Pulling out my trusty old Roland D50, I finally figured out that the problem is that the SP88 controller and the PM aren't getting along. The D50 works fine! It must be something in the nature of the MIDI signal sent out by the Kurzweil.
By the way, in troubleshooting this I noticed M-Audio have a new driver for the PM, posted yesterday. Loading that up didn't help with my SP88 problem, but you might want to grab it.
I guess I'll live with the D50 as my controller for now, but I've got my eye on one of the new M-Audio axioms. Unless someone has a better suggestion!