Which bus feeds Master Fader track?

jstaczek · Post by **jstaczek** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:50 am

I'm confused. Using DP5 with an 828. Have audio tracks set up to go to a "Mix" output which is 828 Main Out 1+2. If I drop a Master Fader track in the sequence, how does it know to automatically use "Mix" output as its input?

This comes up because I don't use bounce-to-disk to print mixes. I'd like to be able to just switch the output of the master fader to a buss that feeds another track for recording mixes, but I always get MAS detected a feedback loop error. So I just end up pitching the master fader and using an aux track as a pseudo master fader.

What's special about the Master Fader???

Thanks,

magicd · Post by **magicd** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:56 am

You don't assign an input with a Master Fader. A Master Fader sits on an assigned output pair.

Master faders have inserts but not sends.

Master Faders have fold-down buttons.

Inserts on Master Faders can be pre or post fader.

Magic Dave

Resonant Alien · Post by **Resonant Alien** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:36 am

You assign the Master Fader to you output pair you want to control, then any other tracks also assigned to that output pair are controlled by the master fader - tracks not assigned to that output pair are not controlled by the master fader

jstaczek · Post by **jstaczek** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:08 pm

Thank you both. I'm no longer confused!

tw_247 · Post by **tw_247** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:06 pm

i use a stereo track set to bus 1-2 as my master fader, and have it input enabled at all times. no big hit on my cpu, and no btd issues! i just record-enable it when i'm ready, listen to my mix as it records, then bounce the resulting bite.

stephentayler · Post by **stephentayler** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:06 am

tw_247 wrote:i use a stereo track set to bus 1-2 as my master fader, and have it input enabled at all times. no big hit on my cpu, and no btd issues! i just record-enable it when i'm ready, listen to my mix as it records, then bounce the resulting bite.

Yes, this is the way I now work with my surround mixes. always monitor input on a surround track, record when the mix is finished, and then BTD to include the mix track plugins. ( I solo the mix track before BTD so the processor has less work to do )

This gives me peace of mind by confirming the mix as it 'goes down', and the resulting BTD works flawlessly.

Stephen

pcm · Post by **pcm** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:24 am

If you have a newer motu interface, you can use MIX1 to record your mixes:

- Leave your master fader (and individual channels) set to the usual output pair you use, typically outputs 1-2.
- Open CueMix, go to the FILE menu, and select "MIX1 Return Includes Computer Output". A check mark will now appear next to the item. This will stay selected until such time as you return and de-select it.
- Back in DP, create a new stereo audio track, and assign it's input to "MIX1"

Hit record, and your mix will track itself onto that track. Make sure you keep THAT fader all the way down so as to not re-record your mix. To hear your mix back, just solo the track.

This allows you to have a real-time bounce, so to speak. I like it better than using the bus method described above, as there is no delay in monitoring the mix. Plus it's always ready to go. And unlike BTD, it will record the auxes, and other real-time stuff that BTD would miss.

I don't believe this is in any of the manuals.

jstaczek · Post by **jstaczek** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:04 pm

Excellent tip! I'll give this a shot.

jstaczek · Post by **jstaczek** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:16 pm

This is a great trick, with only one drawback, that I think also applies no matter how you do this. If you solo the track to listen to the "bounce", DP doesn't mute any pre-fader sends so you can still get that stuff leaking on to your mix bus. Anyone know of a workaround?

electropoet · Post by **electropoet** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:48 pm