DP5 - Enhanced Input Monitoring

bsantoro · Post by **bsantoro** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:08 pm

When I want to record a MIDI track from my Motif keyboard, I must now also create a stereo audio track, pick the input to monitor, and then click on the Record icon for that track in order to be able to actually hear or monitor my performance while listening to previously laid-down audio tracks. Then I have to delete the audio track and keep the MIDI track for tweeking and editing. It seems to me that this is an awkward extra step; thus slowing down the workflow.

Does the new DP5 - Enhanced Input Monitoring mean, all I have to do is click on the "INPUT" button on the Mixer window audio or MIDI track and be able to record ONLY the MIDI track without recording an audio track?

This is a great feature if this is true.

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:46 pm

Use Aux tracks for monitoring.

Yes, I too hope they make all this easier in DP5. I'm pretty much accustomed to doing it this way, so I don't mind it, but I feel for those who haven't figured it out yet, and it would save us dozens of threads on the topic if MOTU just made it a single-click action.

Shooshie

stephentayler · Post by **stephentayler** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:26 pm

bsantoro wrote:
Does the new DP5 - Enhanced Input Monitoring mean, all I have to do is click on the "INPUT" button on the Mixer window audio or MIDI track and be able to record ONLY the MIDI track without recording an audio track?

This is a great feature if this is true.

Yes it is true, saw it working at DP5 demo in London.... set up a track and select input monitor.... when you are ready you can record.....

Stephen

kraigmason · Post by **kraigmason** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:44 am

Would this mean that an AUX track will no longer be needed for monitoring? (Shooshie just turned me onto this (for monitoring Reason Inputs) in a post a few weeks back.)
Or would it still make sense to have an AUX track as well?

stephentayler · Post by **stephentayler** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:55 am

You only need to set up an audio track for monitoring a live input... just set it to input until you are ready to record it.. no longer necessary to use an aux for this purpose

Stephen

Timeline · Post by **Timeline** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:28 am

stephentayler wrote:You only need to set up an audio track for monitoring a live input... just set it to input until you are ready to record it.. no longer necessary to use an aux for this purpose

Stephen

Stephen,

They didn't happen to mention core main mixer monitoring (no latency)did they?

stephentayler · Post by **stephentayler** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:14 am

Gary B,
I would give you an answer but I am not sure I quite understand the question.... sorry!! Can you explain more?? thanks

Stephen

Timeline · Post by **Timeline** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:37 am

stephentayler wrote:Gary B,
I would give you an answer but I am not sure I quite understand the question.... sorry!! Can you explain more?? thanks

Stephen

Sure.

Currently we must-use cuemix to monitor input without latency. This requires a MOTU IO or IO with similar software like Totalmix from RME.

Nuendo provides core switching for PC's in their main mixer and using this separate utility is not necessary for low latency input monitoring and switching. Although Stienberg has not implemented this for Macs, everyone is asking for it there as well. Iwould prefer not to have to switch to Nuendo and prefer DP but when you need to overdub to a 100 track song with plugs and such, well... I'm beginning to think I might have to change over at least for overdubs.

Currently, we must use utilities like cuemix or Totalmix, as in RME, in order to not have no latency or adjust buffers quite low which is totally impracticable for large sessions.

Apple has provided the code hooks, as I understand it, for a couple of years to allow software makers to switch to core for input monitoring but it's been blocked by software makers for some reason I'm not sure of.

The only reason I can think of that you would be able to buy anyones IO and have low latency input monitoring from the main mixer with switching so they have left it out or... there are still problems implementing it. We may never know.

Once this is worked out though, we can finally have a true seamless digital architecture for digital recording on Mac regardless of how big your sessions are.

stephentayler · Post by **stephentayler** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:43 am

Gary, thanks for elaborating.

As I understand it, the new input feature is merely in place to avoid unnecessary routing through aux channels, and latency will be as it was.

Stephen

Timeline · Post by **Timeline** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:49 am

Really!

I may not buy 5 then.

Thanks
G

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