Digital Performer 9.52 released today

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Re: Digital Performer 9.52 released today

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kinnylandrum wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 7:30 am
bayswater wrote:Did this start with a template? If so, maybe try a template created in 9.5.2.

Interesting idea. I'll try that. You mean I have to create a new template from scratch, not just copy an old one?
No need to create from scratch. MOTU highly recommends using new templates in DP 10 (or 9.52 or 11 as it applies to you) — fortunately, this is really easy.

Open your template.
Fix any issues include updating any plugins (ex: shows RX7 but you now have RX8 etc.)
If you want to add, delete or rename tracks, aux's etc., now's the time to do that, too.

When done, use the Save As menu to create your DP 10 or 11 template. I recommend renaming it, too, such as the old template name with 2021 added to the name.

You're done. Takes 30 seconds to a few minutes depending on the number of changes made (if any).

If the new one works as expected, you can now go in and delete the old template. The path is different depending on Mac or Win.
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Re: Digital Performer 9.52 released today

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Klaus wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:57 am Will a DP 9.52 installation make DP 7.24 unusable ?
TIA
and best regards

Klaus
Not entirely unusable, but there were 4 or 5 things that didn't work properly in the older versions when the newer version was installed. Best to have separate volumes or partitions per version and then delete the older version when you're happy with the newer.
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Re: Digital Performer 9.52 released today

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bayswater wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:30 pm
Klaus wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:57 am Will a DP 9.52 installation make DP 7.24 unusable ?
TIA
and best regards

Klaus
Not entirely unusable, but there were 4 or 5 things that didn't work properly in the older versions when the newer version was installed. Best to have separate volumes or partitions per version and then delete the older version when you're happy with the newer.
If they are both on the same drive or partition, this is what will happen:

After you install 9.52, no 32bit only plugins will work. Some other MOTU functions will now be found under the TRIM control.

If you reinstall 7.24 (depending on the MacOS, this may or may not be possible), any 64 bit plugins will not work.

DP 7.24 cannot be made to work on an APFS formatted drive. It will look for the CD to verify the installation and will never "find" it. There is no workaround.

If one volume is formatted APFS, it cannot be seen by the HFS+ formatted drive though the reverse is not true. The only way to switch boot volumes is to shut down completely, then boot holding the Option key. Now both will show up and you can continue from there. Once you have booted from whichever drive or partition, immediately select it as the Startup Disk under System Preferences—not doing this may cause an unpleasant surprise when you reboot for any reason. Don't worry, it's only a time-wasting inconvenience since Option boot will still work.
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Re: Digital Performer 9.52 released today

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mikehalloran wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:05 pm
bayswater wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:30 pm
Klaus wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:57 am Will a DP 9.52 installation make DP 7.24 unusable ?
TIA
and best regards

Klaus
Not entirely unusable, but there were 4 or 5 things that didn't work properly in the older versions when the newer version was installed. Best to have separate volumes or partitions per version and then delete the older version when you're happy with the newer.
If they are both on the same drive or partition, this is what will happen:

After you install 9.52, no 32bit only plugins will work. Some other MOTU functions will now be found under the TRIM control.

If you reinstall 7.24 (depending on the MacOS, this may or may not be possible), any 64 bit plugins will not work.

DP 7.24 cannot be made to work on an APFS formatted drive. It will look for the CD to verify the installation and will never "find" it. There is no workaround.

If one volume is formatted APFS, it cannot be seen by the HFS+ formatted drive though the reverse is not true. The only way to switch boot volumes is to shut down completely, then boot holding the Option key. Now both will show up and you can continue from there. Once you have booted from whichever drive or partition, immediately select it as the Startup Disk under System Preferences—not doing this may cause an unpleasant surprise when you reboot for any reason. Don't worry, it's only a time-wasting inconvenience since Option boot will still work.
Thank you so much guys

I'll keep an 32 bit partition...
No APFS here but DOSDUDE High Sierra installation on not so recent Mac ...
installed on external disk and restored to internal disk or SSD

You know, I bouht DP 9.5 when it came out
and now when I want to install, the DVD install disk
gives me errors upon reading...
I dl DP 9.52 from Motu but
couldn't find the extra packages

Well, keeps me busy ;-))

Best regards from Switzerland

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Re: Digital Performer 9.52 released today

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I dl DP 9.52 from Motu but
couldn't find the extra packages
The tutorials?
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Re: Digital Performer 9.52 released today

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mikehalloran wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:11 am
I dl DP 9.52 from Motu but
couldn't find the extra packages
The tutorials?
...docs, extras, guides...
don't remember all
I asked the Swiss distributor to replace...
Best
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Re: Digital Performer 9.52 released today

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Klaus wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:16 am ...docs, extras, guides...
don't remember all
I asked the Swiss distributor to replace...
Best
Klaus
There was a DP 9 DVD?
Anyway,
The docs should be inside the application package. You can Alt-Drag them to your drive as regular PDFs, or access them from the Help menu. Locations of the other extras are generally shown in the startup screen.
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Re: Digital Performer 9.52 released today

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bayswater wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:08 am
Klaus wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:16 am ...docs, extras, guides...
don't remember all
I asked the Swiss distributor to replace...
Best
Klaus
There was a DP 9 DVD?
Anyway,
The docs should be inside the application package. You can Alt-Drag them to your drive as regular PDFs, or access them from the Help menu. Locations of the other extras are generally shown in the startup screen.
Yes, Swiss reseller sent me one when I bought DP 9...
Thanks a lot
and
best regards

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Re: Digital Performer 9.52 released today

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Since I'm new to the new time / pitch alg ZTX...
I allow myself to ask :
Is it possible to strech a region 'inline',
> following regions get shifted accordingly ?
TIA
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Re: Digital Performer 9.52 released today

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Klaus wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:52 am Since I'm new to the new time / pitch alg ZTX...
I allow myself to ask :
Is it possible to strech a region 'inline',
> following regions get shifted accordingly ?
TIA
Klaus
Yes but…

For stretching/shrinking a word or syllable, it's really easy to use. I do it all the time in my virtual choirs.

For doing the same to a long passage, while it can be done, it is difficult to control over any given length. I find other tools that also use ZTX to be easier in that regard.
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