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FMiguelez wrote: - I want the QT thing "fixed".

+1

MIDI Life Crisis wrote: More robust copy protection. Maybe iLock.

I'd DEFINITELY LOVE an iLok for DP. They are really such a breeze to deal with, especially when reinstalling or formating an entire drive!

MIDI Life Crisis wrote:Sawzall beat straight and circular saws but make it hard to hit the mute button.

If that means what I think it does, I love your "motivic development" migration across movemen.. errr... threads

That's so Stravinsky!

And what about the "tapping your feet to have your hands free"?? Does that also come from where I think it does?

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Also, I've noticed at least 3 threads this month asking for "MIDI note mute". If you don't mind my asking, WHY would you need that? To what end? I mean, if I don't want a note, I'll just delete it. Or duplicate the take and delete the note in one of the takes... I'm asking just out of curiosity. Perhaps it's a workflow thing, or I'm just missing somethin'.

The mouse and keyboard shortcuts are meant to *compliment* each other. If you haven't experienced a configuration using both, then you are limiting yourself. There is not one person using DP that I've had an influence on that isn't thankful for learning how to do this. Every time, they would watch me and wonder how my right hand never left the mouse, and how my left hand never left the keyboard. They would wonder how I did this while not clicking on every thing to accomplish my goals. After I showed them my setup, they couldn't go back to the old methods. I've heard it described as driving a car with both hands as opposed to using your knees.

You are kidding yourself if you think using the mouse for everything is acceptable for your long term physical well being.

I should post a video detailing my setup. May be nothing new to some, but may be the difference between a healthy set of wrists and debilitating repetitive stress injuries for most.

In the Soundbites window, a volume control would listen Soundbites pleasant as in the BPM Browner to not have Soundbites at high volume as at present.

• it would be nice if MOTU can come up with a brain storm so that, when changing the buffer setting, all samples don't have to unload and reload.

• buffer setting displayed visibly all time.

• fix the euphonics cpu issue - (if it's related to motu of course)

• fix the stuck notes problem

• wma import

• something really nice to surprise us!

FMiguelez wrote:

chaim wrote:• mute MIDI notes
• a quicker way to pencil in, different CCs one after the other.

(like if you pencil in a MIDI track an adjustment on expression, then you want a little adjustment on the modulation etc... it becomes sort of a pain to have go through the mebus and select.) If you need to do this very often, you'll perfectly understand my point.

If you click on any controller point in the SE, you will instantly be able to edit it.
Especially nice if you are working in Lines mode.

That's true for the SE window but not for the standard MIDI editing windows, which would really help out. That is a good suggestion. Let's give it a bullet

• click on any controller point in the Graphic Editor, to instantly be able to edit it.

BTW: if you are able to select a range of points of only the CCs you want to edit, you can do so with the reshape tool, even if that CC is not the selected editable CC in the menu beneath.
But not with the pencil tool.

amplidood wrote:The mouse and keyboard shortcuts are meant to *compliment* each other. If you haven't experienced a configuration using both, then you are limiting yourself. There is not one person using DP that I've had an influence on that isn't thankful for learning how to do this. Every time, they would watch me and wonder how my right hand never left the mouse, and how my left hand never left the keyboard. They would wonder how I did this while not clicking on every thing to accomplish my goals. After I showed them my setup, they couldn't go back to the old methods. I've heard it described as driving a car with both hands as opposed to using your knees.

You are kidding yourself if you think using the mouse for everything is acceptable for your long term physical well being.

I should post a video detailing my setup. May be nothing new to some, but may be the difference between a healthy set of wrists and debilitating repetitive stress injuries for most.

Please do!

Buzzy


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• to be able to drag/drop a track in the TO window onto a closed track folder.

• to be able to drag/drop 'multiple' tracks in TO, into an 'existing' track folder

chaim wrote:
• buffer setting displayed visibly all time.

in order not to have to mess with the current GUI, since there is not really any space to add another read out, a preference which object should be visible would satisfy most or all users.

For me, I would replace the frames (fps) read out.
Some one that works with video might need that so he'll replace something else.

newrigel wrote:Like I said, if I want to type commands... I'll use DOS!

I don't know how you're getting away with the argument that having to use key commands is like having to use DOS. They both use a keyboard, that's about it. If you want to use a DOS analogy, you'd have a command followed by all the parameters required to complete an operation (c:mixer -novrack ch1(-36.2) ch4(-6.1) ... and so on for a few hundred lines, so change mixer levels). Justing invoking a plug in and settings its parameter would take about as long as a song takes to play.

May I jump in ladies?

I don't really see the point of arguing one side or the other about mouse v. keyboard. Are we trying to convert one another to or from the use or misuse of our preferred method or striving toward a bunch of homogenized genetic code of users?

FWIW (and it ain't much) I fall squarely in the middle. Bi-input if you will. Even if you won't. The fact that I and others have spent time and money on the likes of Quickeys, multi button 'mousies,' pointers, and custom shareware drivers informs my DNA that like double mint, double mint, double mint gum, computer input is two mints in one. And what about touch screen, voice recognition, thought transfer, MIDI input and deep sea fishing rights? OK, the 200 mile limit should be 500, but beyond that we will never agree or convince another that one method of data input is better than another.

Finale users do the same thing. Simple entry v. Hyperscribe v. Speed Entry. They all end up in the same place, just like yesterday's lunch. I say let the user digest at their own rate and cut the... rhetoric.

FMiguelez wrote: I can tell you I'd SMOKE you (or any mouse-moving user) easily (in DP-operation speed). You with your quick mouse moves and I with my shortcuts... you'd be left in the dust, my friend.
We talked about this in a similar thread, and I gave you the floppy disk VS SSD example.
If we were measuring the speed of the DP user/operator, you would be a floppy and we would be the SSD!

What do you want? Change a velocity? Command-2. Bam! Done. Next?

No offense intended, Harley!

Now, imagine how much faster YOU'd work if you started implementing the shortcuts into your workflow... You'd be flying with them!

I notice that these KC's have to do with fixing things...
I'm sure you would if I did a lot of MIDI composition (like you and others here) but I don't play too much MIDI oriented music... Sure, I play some background accompaniment to the band, but what my workflow consist of is doing my vox work.
I'm recording a vocal take then I'm running a plugin and mixing... no KC's for that.
This is what I'm saying. I rarely if at all use a menu process on my voice where a KC can be used (I have a few of them set up for that) but I wouldn't necessarily say that my workflow would be increased by using KC's with what I do. I rarely use them... some may need to frequent them often and I can see that then... but I don't. It depends if you have to fix things and have to manipulate and massage the data in some way... I don't do these things, I am inside a plugin window dialing it in and mixing with an on screen knob etc. and there are no KC's for those things...
Not everyone does the same things and I think having to do a key command is going against the UI for a mute function. Your on a virtual console.
Again, if you need to massage data and fix things... you'll be using some sort of command.

James Steele wrote:As usual you state your opinion forcefully. However if you choose only to click buttons with a mouse for everything then you're only slowing yourself down in many cases. Keyboard shortcuts can save a lot of time if you have them committed to memory. Watch really good video editors. You won't see them marking edit points with a mouse.

As a professional video editor/Production Manager, I can attest to this. I do use a combination of mouse and keyboard, but for making fine adjustments, the keyboard is king. Shortcuts for everything...

...HOWEVER. The modern-day DAW is far more complex than a video editing system. It's more akin to a video editor/compositor (After Effects, Motion, etc) wrapped in one. And yes, I use a hell of a lot of shortcuts in AE too. But once you start putting that many commands at someone's disposal at one time, the human memory starts to run together. My shortcut lists for both Premiere and AE combined are probably 1/8th of the shortcuts list for DP7. This poses some real problems in being able to recall certain tasks. Sure, every day edits become second nature, but doing more complicated things becomes incredibly slow. I've often wondered whether the modern day DAW has outgrown itself, whether this model is really the most effective way of doing what we do.

OMG! He used the "p" word. LOL! Nothing personal, PM. Just that some folks don't think being a "pro" gives us any advantage. I'm o/t as usual, but someone has to pick up where Nicky left off...

Prime Mover wrote:

James Steele wrote:As usual you state your opinion forcefully. However if you choose only to click buttons with a mouse for everything then you're only slowing yourself down in many cases. Keyboard shortcuts can save a lot of time if you have them committed to memory. Watch really good video editors. You won't see them marking edit points with a mouse.

As a professional video editor/Production Manager, I can attest to this. I do use a combination of mouse and keyboard, but for making fine adjustments, the keyboard is king. Shortcuts for everything...

...HOWEVER. The modern-day DAW is far more complex than a video editing system. It's more akin to a video editor/compositor (After Effects, Motion, etc) wrapped in one. And yes, I use a hell of a lot of shortcuts in AE too. But once you start putting that many commands at someone's disposal at one time, the human memory starts to run together. My shortcut lists for both Premiere and AE combined are probably 1/8th of the shortcuts list for DP7. This poses some real problems in being able to recall certain tasks. Sure, every day edits become second nature, but doing more complicated things becomes incredibly slow. I've often wondered whether the modern day DAW has outgrown itself, whether this model is really the most effective way of doing what we do.

Henceforth... AND I WILL REPEAT... I never said anybody needed to remember all the shortcut key commands. I have said that knowing the ones that correspond to actions you do most often WILL SAVE YOU TIME. For some reason this I'd debated.

And Harley, you may not use many of them when recording your vocals or not. But even if you did NOTHING ELSE but learn some of the modifiers for audio editing that turn the cursor into different editing tools, you will work faster. If you have a philosophical or personal reason for not working faster than that's a different issue.