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Re: Suggestions for next DP update

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:45 pm
by Shooshie
Michael Canavan wrote:
KEVORKIAN wrote: Interesting... I'm still having trouble visualizing this perfectly so I'll have to play around with this. When you say "effect on Aux 1 in a sequence, but not on another part of the Sequence later in the Song" do you mean that you have effects on a Aux on one chunk that are not used on another chunk that you end up hearing both versions in the song window?
Yes, all kinds of doubling with aux tracks in Chunks.
I haven't come across this yet, likely because I route the majority of my Aux effects to V-racks that are applied to all chunks.
OK when you haven't recorded every instrument to audio yet, but another slow down if you have. As V-Racks have to be recorded in real time in my set up. <--hope it's a flaw in my knowledge, but that's how it goes when I record.

Brings up another request that might be in upgrades past 5, "Render all tracks to audio".
The way around this in 5 is to freeze all tracks and use the frozen audio, move it out of the freeze folder etc. but it's a work around compared to just having a command that does it.
V-Racks bounce like any other. No freezing necessary. It's not a flaw in your knowledge, perhaps, but maybe a matter of what version of DP you're using. I don't remember when that became possible, but I want to say possibly 5.12? Maybe it was 6.0. I don't know.

Shooshie

Re: Suggestions for next DP update

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:46 am
by Michael Canavan
Shooshie wrote: V-Racks bounce like any other. No freezing necessary. It's not a flaw in your knowledge, perhaps, but maybe a matter of what version of DP you're using. I don't remember when that became possible, but I want to say possibly 5.12? Maybe it was 6.0. I don't know.
Good to know! The DP5 manual sez to record them into aux tracks in real time if I recall correctly? on 5.1.3 ATM, and very much looking forward to 7 when funds afford it! 8)

Re: Suggestions for next DP update

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:02 pm
by cchristensson
One more vote for MIDI mute, both for selected events in graph ed and for selections in track overview and sequence.
In logic I´m using it a lot, so efficient for trying different voicings when composing and really missing it in DP.

Re: Suggestions for next DP update

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:08 pm
by cchristensson
Oh! One more feature that I would like to be implemented: do a time selection and have Dp to detect cuts in a movie and put markers there.
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Re: Suggestions for next DP update

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:19 pm
by MIDI Life Crisis
cchristensson wrote:Oh! One more feature that I would like to be implemented: do a time selection and have Dp to detect cuts in a movie and put markers there.
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Detect cuts from where? From the quicktime file, or the editor? If it's from the editor, Final Cut XML files already do that.

Re: Suggestions for next DP update

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:36 pm
by Radiogal
Audio/Bite Volyme and Gain/Set Bite Gain.
Bite Gain amount -/+ dB memory for the chosen soundbite. I´m using this almost all the time instead of the volume drawing automation. It´s so quick and precise and the waveform view changes by volume. This makes it real easy to see the soundbite volume.
Only thing is when going back wanting to change the gain volume again, one has to recheck the preleveled amount by testing different settings before making the change. Otherwise it´s a great feature.

Grid options!

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:58 pm
by wheever
All this talk in the big grid thread has made me want to request MOTU to allow us to turn the gridlines on and off independent of whether the grid is enabled. Also, to allow us to change the color of the gridlines easily. Suddenly the grid is really irritating me. :brucelee:

Re: Suggestions for next DP update

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:12 pm
by cchristensson
What I meant was from the quicktimefile. It´s really a great feature.
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Re: Suggestions for next DP update

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:17 pm
by MIDI Life Crisis
Can any DAW do that? Since Apple is essentially the creator of both QTime and Logic, as well as FCP, you'd expect those programs could. In a pro environment where files are changing all the time, XML is the best you can do... no?

Re: Suggestions for next DP update

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:54 am
by cchristensson
Shure! Logic can.
That´s why I hope it can be implemented in DP too.
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Re: Suggestions for next DP update

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:19 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
As I am not using Logic, can you verify what I think you are saying?

I have a QT movie of 60 minutes. I clip out 47 seconds here, 87 seconds there, insert a completely new scene at 38:09 for 03:27, and Logic can tell where all the edits are, where all the original stuff is now and adjust accordingly?

That can't be right, but if it is, I will go out TODAY and buy Logic. Not becuase I do that kind of editing, or because the folks I work with do, but simply because any programmer who can program magical powers into a DAW should be supported with the full force of my meager finances.

BTW, prior to posting this, I scoured the www and the Apple site and the best I can determine is that Logic Pro can "detect cuts" in a Quicktime movie. Again, as many editors (most of the ones I work with) are using FCP, the XML option is in DP (I don't think Logic has that, does it?).

Oddly, I couldn't find any extensive info about the "scene detect option" except mention that it exists. I'm not so sure I'll be running over to the Apple store and plunking down $500 any time soon, will I?

Re: Suggestions for next DP update

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:39 am
by benmrx
You know how in a movie/video/etc... you have scenes.. and then a cut to a new scene... or for instance, say... camera 1 is on actor A and camera 2 is on actor B... and the video "cuts" between those 2 cameras during a dialogue sequence...... Logic will scan your quicktime file and place markers everytime that happens.

Nothing to do with adding/deleting new/old footage or making changes to an existing sequence.

As far as I know, DP is the ONLY app with any kind of XML transfer between FCP. DP is also still (and quite surprisingly IMO) the only app with the ability to add streamers/flutters/punches.

Re: Suggestions for next DP update

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:51 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
Thanks. I'd find that an annoying feature. :)

Re: Suggestions for next DP update

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:03 am
by benmrx
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:Thanks. I'd find that an annoying feature. :)
As is, it's not very usefull... you end up with a thousand markers!! What would be cool, is if you could highlite only a section of the timeline and tell it to detect cuts... but as far as I know you can only run that command on the entire movie. You just end up going in and cleaning up all the unwanted markers..... by which time it probably could have been done faster manually.

Re: Suggestions for next DP update

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:14 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
That's exactly what I was thinking. All those marks would drive me nuts. A marker every time the camera angle changes? LOL!