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Re: DP 11.33 VocAlign Project ARA

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:28 pm
by Killahurts
I have to tighten 7-12 vocal tracks at a time to a guide track. Will Vocalign do this in DP? Do I have to have the Pro version, or just the Standard?

Re: DP 11.33 VocAlign Project ARA

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:19 pm
by HCMarkus
Killahurts wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:28 pm I have to tighten 7-12 vocal tracks at a time to a guide track. Will Vocalign do this in DP? Do I have to have the Pro version, or just the Standard?
I got the Pro version, as it handles Pitch as well as timing which is great for stacking vocal doubles. Haven't used as ARA as yet, but have used successfully as a VST3 Plugin in DP.

I'd assume the Standard version would work fine for timing only.

Re: DP 11.33 VocAlign Project ARA

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:26 pm
by cuttime
I'm not a user of VocAlign, but I'm interested in feedback on this:

https://voicealign.app/

Re: DP 11.33 VocAlign Project ARA

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:30 pm
by HCMarkus
cuttime wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:26 pm I'm not a user of VocAlign, but I'm interested in feedback on this:

https://voicealign.app/
Try it and let us know. It might be tedious to export, upload, import one track at a time for processing.

If you need it only occasionally, could be nice; looks free?

Re: DP 11.33 VocAlign Project ARA

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:34 am
by rnappi
Killahurts wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:28 pm I have to tighten 7-12 vocal tracks at a time to a guide track. Will Vocalign do this in DP? Do I have to have the Pro version, or just the Standard?
Pardon for interrupting your conversation, but maybe Waves new offering of SyncVX might be of interest.
https://www.waves.com/plugins/sync-vx?u ... l-jan-2025

Re: DP 11.33 VocAlign Project ARA

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:56 am
by James Steele
rnappi wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:34 am
Killahurts wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:28 pm I have to tighten 7-12 vocal tracks at a time to a guide track. Will Vocalign do this in DP? Do I have to have the Pro version, or just the Standard?
Pardon for interrupting your conversation, but maybe Waves new offering of SyncVX might be of interest.
https://www.waves.com/plugins/sync-vx?u ... l-jan-2025
The thing that's always sketchy is whether or not DP will support these things via ARA. I think maybe only Melodyne (VST3) currently works? Maybe I'm wrong and I should read the thread? LOL :)

Re: DP 11.33 VocAlign Project ARA

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:23 am
by HCMarkus
simul wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 1:27 pm update: just installed and tested VocAlign PRO 6, and it works flawlessly with ARA! it crashed when I used "ARA on tracks", but it works with "ARA on soundbites". this will save TON of time when capturing sources. :)
This good news. I've yet to try it, but looks like there is a workable ARA approach to VocAlign.

I do wonder what computer @simul is running...

Re: DP 11.33 VocAlign Project ARA

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:04 am
by Killahurts
rnappi wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:34 am
Killahurts wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:28 pm I have to tighten 7-12 vocal tracks at a time to a guide track. Will Vocalign do this in DP? Do I have to have the Pro version, or just the Standard?
Pardon for interrupting your conversation, but maybe Waves new offering of SyncVX might be of interest.
https://www.waves.com/plugins/sync-vx?u ... l-jan-2025
Yes that's really cool, looks like what I need.. but it's Waves, I haven't trusted them in many years and don't use their products, have they changed? What are they like now? SyncVX does have a legitimate price tag as a stand-alone, non-subscription software (required for me), so maybe it's OK.

Re: DP 11.33 VocAlign Project ARA

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:27 am
by HCMarkus
I use a lot of Waves stuff, and it has been solid for me with Apple Silicon, AU and DP. They offer some very good values and a huge variety of plugins; many run $30-40. "Buy two get two free" type sales are the norm (one is running now). WUP (Waves Update Plan) is something folks like to complain about, but WUPping is not typically required absent a computer architecture change (as in Intel to Apple Silicon). Black Friday WUP sales are pretty common, too.

As a Vocalign owner, my price to upgrade was, IIRC, less than the Waves version, which I had not heard of until today (looks new), so I'm not a potential customer for the Waves plugin. But I looked into it a bit...

Anyway, DP is NOT listed as tested host for the Waves plugin, which uses "ARA2". But it can be Demo'd, and Waves recommends this.
Exceptions & Notes:
Not supported as a regular insert, only via ARA

Sync Vx (V15) - Supported Hosts
Apple Silicon Support
The DAW versions listed below are the latest on which we tested and officially qualified each the latest version of our products.
Waves’ latest version works on newer sub-versions of these DAWs, unless stated otherwise.
If your DAW (or DAW version) is not listed here, we recommend you demo the product you wish to purchase to confirm it works.
Your DAW must be running on an operating system that supports it in order for plugins to work properly. To confirm that your DAW version is supported on your operating system, please refer to your DAW’s website.

Mac
Pro Tools2024.10AAX
Logic Pro11Audio Units
Supported on Apple Silicon via Rosetta
Nuendo13VST3
Cubase13, 14VST3
Studio One Professional6, 7VST3
REAPER7VST3

Windows
Pro Tools2024.10AAX
Nuendo13VST3
Cubase13, 14VST3
Studio One Professional6, 7VST3
REAPER7VST3
Cakewalk Sonar2024.11VST3

Re: DP 11.33 VocAlign Project ARA

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:26 am
by rnappi
Killahurts wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:04 am Yes that's really cool...have they changed?...
I think Waves learned their lesson from the whole WUP debacle years ago. I've had no issues with their plugs or tech support, but with so many other choices, I just don't use them so much. That said, I have no problem if they want to give all their plugs away for $29.95. I'll gladly purchase and tuck them away till my curiosity gets me to try them.

As for Sync VX, I don't know how it will play out, but it's about time someone gives SyncroArts a little competition. The Landr takeover has not been good for VocAlign in my humble opinion.. Too many bugs and not enough updates.
HCMarkus wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:27 am Anyway, DP is NOT listed...
They almost never are. :D

Re: DP 11.33 VocAlign Project ARA

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 12:56 pm
by HCMarkus
rnappi wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:26 am
HCMarkus wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:27 am Anyway, DP is NOT listed...
They almost never are. :D
Actually, for most of their plugins (all except the one we are talking about here, I do believe), Waves lists DP13 as supported.

Re: DP 11.33 VocAlign Project ARA

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:43 pm
by rnappi
HCMarkus wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 12:56 pm
rnappi wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:26 am
HCMarkus wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:27 am Anyway, DP is NOT listed...
They almost never are. :D
Actually, for most of their plugins (all except the one we are talking about here, I do believe), Waves lists DP13 as supported.
Poorly worded on my part. I meant it seems most developers don't bother including DP on their lists.

Re: DP 11.33 VocAlign Project ARA

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:52 pm
by James Steele
HCMarkus wrote:…Waves lists DP13 as supported.
Been driving the DeLorean again? Image

Re: DP 11.33 VocAlign Project ARA

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:09 pm
by HCMarkus
James Steele wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:52 pm
HCMarkus wrote:…Waves lists DP13 as supported.
Been driving the DeLorean again? Image
??? I guess we are on v15 for Waves now, aren't we?

Re: DP 11.33 VocAlign Project ARA

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:14 am
by James Steele
HCMarkus wrote:
James Steele wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:52 pm
HCMarkus wrote:…Waves lists DP13 as supported.
Been driving the DeLorean again? Image
??? I guess we are on v15 for Waves now, aren't we?
DP13? Image