I may have to upgrade to Catalina

[CharlzS]

I've been drooling over the Triton VI. But at $250 without a discount for former KLC owners? Something feels really wrong there. With M1 and Wavestation, they gave huge discounts when they were released.

There should be a link in your https://id.korg.com account under 'Your Products' for a Triton add-on to the LC for $149.

[mikehalloran]

It cannot overwrite a later OS than on the boot drive.

But is there anything stopping you from creating a new volume and installing a different OS version on that volume? I've done that, adding a Catalina volume to a drive with Mojave installed. But would I have been able to do it the other way around? (assuming of course, the mac is able to run both versions).

If so, this an efficient solution because it only uses the space necessary to store the new OS version, not the space required for an entire partition.

I would need to try it on one of those new Macs that were released after October 2019. I don't know if it's possible but, since you are recommending making it a boot volume, I suspect the answer is No.

It might work on a late model iMac since the release date precedes Catalina.

Even if it works, since it cripples APFS Snapshots and can cause other issues, I will never recommend doing that. Additional OS on removables, OTOH, I do that but I unplug them in case of a Snapshots restore.

[Prime Mover]

Ugh, between this and my 40TB Backblaze upload, something tells me this is going to be a REAL PAIN.

[mikehalloran]

Ugh, between this and my 40TB Backblaze upload, something tells me this is going to be a REAL PAIN.

Just once though that once can take a few days.

[Prime Mover]

Yeah, it's been the bane of my existence for the past month. It used to be faster. I have 1Gb/300Mb internet here, but for some reason, it speed tests no higher than 10Mb to their HQ, so it's become a real problem. I've talked with their tech support but they haven't offered any solutions. I've even considered switching my ISP (I have the fastest now) or have someone try it out on a different ISP and see if they can get substantially better. It might become an issue down the line.

[bayswater]

It might work on a late model iMac since the release date precedes Catalina.

Even if it works, since it cripples APFS Snapshots and can cause other issues, I will never recommend doing that.

Yes, it would only be useful on Macs that predate Catalina.

What "other issues" are there?

[Phil O]

The drive must be wiped and reformatted first. This is not the issue in a normal TM Restore where the latest backup OS is the same.

Thank you!

Phil

[Killahurts]

I haven't found any update last month for Korg Software (I have the Legacy products of Wavestation and M1). Where did you see these updates?

You can download the Korg Software Pass here: https://id.korg.com/static_pages/3
The individual upgrades should be listed in your Korg ID account also.
If you didn't convert your Korguser.net ID to a Korg ID, I think you can still convert from https://korguser.net.

Thank you sooooo much for this! I'm currently transitioning to a brand new Mac Pro. When saw here that Catalina didn't play well with Korg Legacy, I went into hysterics. Luckily, thanks to this info I was able to go through the bizarre and time consuming transition to Korg ID, buy the plugins one at a time, cutting/pasting the coupons in each one so they will be free.. but I'm not complaining, it works perfectly in DP!!

[BobK]

Is there are particular reason I should avoid Catalina now?

Lloyd Chambers, who writes mac diagnostic software and runs blogs about macs and photography calls Catalina a POS. He's been writing about what he calls "Apple Core Rot" for years.

I'm sticking with Mojave as long as I can, but of course YMMV.

https://macperformanceguide.com

[Prime Mover]

Ummm... not that he's wrong, but that kind of criticism wreaks of "old man yells at cloud". Not a great way of getting your point across by slinging names with low-hanging fruit (pun intended). That said, he might not be wrong.

[bayswater]

Is there are particular reason I should avoid Catalina now?

Lloyd Chambers, who writes mac diagnostic software and runs blogs about macs and photography calls Catalina a POS. He's been writing about what he calls "Apple Core Rot" for years.

I'm sticking with Mojave as long as I can, but of course YMMV.

https://macperformanceguide.com

His style is a bit over the top, but he's quite right in the substance of his comments on security. It's become intrusive and obstructive.

[BobK]

Ummm... not that he's wrong, but that kind of criticism wreaks of "old man yells at cloud". Not a great way of getting your point across by slinging names with low-hanging fruit (pun intended). That said, he might not be wrong.

He documents the issues in great detail on the blog, and posts comments from readers having similar issues. If you haven't checked it out, then you're doing exactly what you accuse him of - slinging names. I posted the link so you could check his info and see if it helps in your decision. Take it or leave it.

Yes, his style is over the top sometimes and his usage cases are probably more demanding than those of many mac users. But he's very specific and detail-oriented.

[Prime Mover]

I'll take a good look, and I have no slight against his methods. But the cute "Apple Core Rot" and "Catalina is a POS", understandably give me pause. I don't think that's an unreasonable reaction in the age of the troll soundbite.

[BobK]

I don't think that's an unreasonable reaction in the age of the troll soundbite.

Yes, outside of the context of his blog I can see how it might sound troll-like.

But he's a serious user: here are his posts starting in 2013 that include that tag (both macOS and iOS):

https://macperformanceguide.com/autoTop ... e+Core+Rot

I've experienced only a few of these issues. Some seem related to his specific hardware and usage cases.

[mikehalloran]

I don't think that's an unreasonable reaction in the age of the troll soundbite.

Yes, outside of the context of his blog I can see how it might sound troll-like.

But he's a serious user: here are his posts starting in 2013 that include that tag (both macOS and iOS):

https://macperformanceguide.com/autoTop ... e+Core+Rot

I've experienced only a few of these issues. Some seem related to his specific hardware and usage cases.

Too many of this guy’s rants are over non-problems and minor problems that are easily fixed. He has little credibility in my eyes.