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Re: Pro Tools HD NATIVE

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:27 am
by Phil O
Check it out:

http://www.motu.com/newsitems/motu-audi ... ro-tools-9" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't know if this is a good or a bad thing, but I guess MOTU has to keep up on this too.

Phil

Re: Pro Tools HD NATIVE

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:37 am
by i7user
:smash: :rofl:

Re: Pro Tools HD NATIVE

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:11 am
by markwayne
I don't think Avid really had a choice here. I have seen a fair number of studios around here that were long-time, hard core, Pro-Tools-only facilities over the last five years jump ship (usually to Logic) or simply limp along on very old, outdated systems due to a either a refusal or a financial inability to stay on the digi-hardware upgrade, merry-go-round.

I personally welcome this move and have ordered my upgrade. I am going to be very happy to ditch my digi interface (one of the worst sounding boxes ever) and gain a ton of the HD-only features that I have been, frankly, rather impressed with over the last several years.

I guess I just see it as increased competition which brings everyones game up. (I also have to maintain a current version of Cubase for two Nuendo-based studios I get work from.)

Re: Pro Tools HD NATIVE

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:04 am
by glamacchia
markwayne wrote: . . . I have seen a fair number of studios around here that were long-time, hard core, Pro-Tools-only facilities over the last five years jump ship (usually to Logic) or simply limp along on very old, outdated systems due to a either a refusal or a financial inability to stay on the digi-hardware upgrade, merry-go-round.

. . .

I guess I just see it as increased competition which brings everyones game up. (I also have to maintain a current version of Cubase for two Nuendo-based studios I get work from.)

You raise some good points and past iconic standards.
Gone are the days when you were able to actually try before you buy. Something that back in the days when Digi was not whoring gear through the Sam Asshes and gtr centers and there was still a pro market, companies like HB would give you a $25,000 PT system to try at your studio. Now we have to rely on first hand learning and the accompanied sorrowed hindsight after buying something that just won't do what we expected or reading forums such as this to get opinions. I work in audio, I don't want to read an opinion I want to hear it in a known environment.


I wonder though, is a 100% native PT system going to be any bigger, better, faster more than any other native system? Will I suddenly be able to track natively a small 18 piece ensemble at 24 / 192 with typical micing on the drums; 2 kick mics, 2 snare mics, OH's and individual underneath cymbal mics, stereo room mics, live piano both close and ambient - the piano type made with Elephant tusks - vocals and backing and the rest and employ a certain 3 mics on a marshal cabinet speaker technique all while sending separate real time cues to the four rooms and a control room mix with an electric bass player standing behind the engineer tracking live and a second mix to the irate producer hanging out sipping coffee in the break room who is constantly bragging how 'BACK IN MY DAY WE HADE FIVE ENGINEERS IN THE STUDIO, TWO GOOD EARS BETWEEN THE FIVE OF THEM WE'd GET' ... and not continually being reminded on your 4 computer screens how much nicer it would be to be spinning time, I mean SPENDING time at the beach


Perhaps in the year 2020, using the latest mondo octoplex 3 billion-terra-flop/ clock cycle CPU I will be able to do then, what I was promised I could do now.

Be Well

Re: Pro Tools HD NATIVE

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:38 pm
by David Polich
I once had lunch with Jack Douglas (the producer for all the early
Aerosmith albums, John Lennon/Yoko Ono's "Double Fantasy", Cheap Trick's
debut album, etc.). He asked me what DAW I was on and I said, "Digital
Performer".

"You know, I really like Digital Performer", he replied. "But...ummm,
everyone's on Pro Tools".

And that pretty much summed up the reason to be on Pro Tools, if any, at least
for me. I've never run into any other reason that was valid.

Re: Pro Tools HD NATIVE

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:50 pm
by James Steele
I ride a Suzuki. Same diff. :)

Re: Pro Tools HD NATIVE

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:41 pm
by David Polich
Seems that, in keeping with the Digidesign/Avid tradition, PT9 is not
quite soup yet. Lots of complaints over at the Avid user forums about
inability to shut off input monitoring, i-Lok incompatibility, incompitability with OSX 10.6.5, and latency when punching in and out of record on systems with non-PT hardware interfaces.

I've talked to a couple of Pro Tools "buddies" who just got 9 and
they've told me they wished they'd waited on installing it.

So apparently, Avid hasn't gotten the "Native" part of it quite right
yet. I imagine they will, sometime within the next six months.