Roger Nichols Plug-Ins

David Polich · Post by **David Polich** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:25 pm

Just curious if anyone else is enjoying the demos as much as I am -

http://www.rogernicholsdigital.com

(formerly Elemental Audio)

Finis and Dyna-mizer get my vote.

azusa749a · Post by **azusa749a** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:57 pm

Yes I've seen that. You should see this one too. It came from NAMM summer06.

http://www.gearwire.com/mov/Roger_Nicho ... elizer.mov

His intro: Hi.......... We're developing plug ins that do not exist in the plug in world.

corbo-billy · Post by **corbo-billy** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:14 am

Yes, that appears rather powerfull

Phil O · Post by **Phil O** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:42 am

David Polich wrote:Just curious if anyone else is enjoying the demos as much as I am -

http://www.rogernicholsdigital.com

(formerly Elemental Audio)

Finis and Dyna-mizer get my vote.

I have InspectorXL from Elemental Audio and just downloaded the UB version. I think this is the last of the support from Elemental. I paid something like $80 for it originally.
I've always had respect for Elemental Audio as a company that gives good support, for a good product, at a very reasonable price. I don't know if I can say the same for RND. It's still the same product (made by Elemental), don't know about the support yet, and the prices have shot WAY up. They look like great plugs (although I haven't tried the demos yet), but I'll wait a while before I plunk any money down. It's a shame that Elemental isn't selling direct any more.

Phil

Splinter · Post by **Splinter** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:51 am

Phil O wrote:I've always had respect for Elemental Audio as a company that gives good support, for a good product, at a very reasonable price. I don't know if I can say the same for RND. It's still the same product (made by Elemental), don't know about the support yet, and the prices have shot WAY up.

Elemental WAS a great company till they sold out to RND. The plugs are good, but certainly not worth the price of admission for what RND is now charging. I purchased a bundle of 3 plugs from EAS for less than what RND now charges for one of the identical plugs. I have them all except Finis, but won't upgrade beyond the free UB versions.

I would highly caution you before purchasing these plugs from RND. The whole shakedown with the Elemental pissed off A LOT of faithful users and made it very obvious to many RND knows nothing about customer relations. I also suspect RND won't be around for long either with such poor business practices.

eriknorlander · Post by **eriknorlander** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:33 pm

Phil O wrote: I have InspectorXL from Elemental Audio and just downloaded the UB version. I think this is the last of the support from Elemental. I paid something like $80 for it originally. [snip]

I downloaded the free version of Inspector in hopes that it could be a subsitute for Waves PAZ. While I don't know about the XL version, the free version only works as a stereo plug -- either stereo or mono-to-stereo. That's kind of annoying when you want to put in on a bass guitar or kick drum track to see what's going on down low and suddenly you have a stereo track. I put in the last insert slot, and then I can continue to put mono plugs above it. That's one quibble. Another is that there is no freeze function. On a bass guitar, for example, when the guy is playing different notes and one of them pokes out with a certain frequency, I used to use PAZ to freeze that note an then look at the spectrum. Can't do that on Inspector Free; maybe you can on the paid for version. And my final quibble, the window is awfully small.

Please pardon my quibbles. The expression "you get what you pay for" is certainly true, and since I paid nothing for this Inspector, I really have nothing to complain about. But would I buy the bigger version based on this free one? Probably not. As much as I dislike Waves' upgrade policies (I chose not to upgrade my old Gold Bundle), I may drop the $200 for PAZ.

Or maybe on day UA will make a spectrum analyzer ... or even MOTU!

Best regards,
Erik

dtobocman · Post by **dtobocman** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:37 pm

InspectorXL is far superior to PAZ, in my opinion. I rely on it heavily and my results are better than ever.

eriknorlander · Post by **eriknorlander** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:40 pm

dtobocman wrote:InspectorXL is far superior to PAZ, in my opinion. I rely on it heavily and my results are better than ever.

Hey dtobocman, glad to hear that. Does the XL version have a freeze function and work as a mono plug?

Thx!
Erik

Tritonemusic · Post by **Tritonemusic** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:48 pm

eriknorlander wrote:Does the XL version have a freeze function and work as a mono plug?

Yes and yes.

PAZ pales in comparison. I wouldn't spend my money on it (and I do own and love WAVES plug-ins).

Phil O · Post by **Phil O** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:24 am

Splinter wrote:I would highly caution you before purchasing these plugs from RND. The whole shakedown with the Elemental pissed off A LOT of faithful users and made it very obvious to many RND knows nothing about customer relations. I also suspect RND won't be around for long either with such poor business practices.

Yeah, I'm sort of leaning in that direction. But that multi-zone compressor/expander looks useful. Does anyone else make a plug like that? According to Nichols, it's unique.

Phil

marcmarc · Post by **marcmarc** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:30 am

eriknorlander :
I own InspectorXL and it is hugely superior to PAZ.
But even if I own InspectorXL, I've purchased a really killer metering app : Spectre.
if you want to try it :
http://audiofile-engineering.com/spectre.php

and I don't even use inspector anymore...

soundsun · Post by **soundsun** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:28 pm

marcmarc wrote:eriknorlander :
I own InspectorXL and it is hugely superior to PAZ.
But even if I own InspectorXL, I've purchased a really killer metering app : Spectre.
if you want to try it :
http://audiofile-engineering.com/spectre.php

and I don't even use inspector anymore...

As a user the InspectorXL I'd be very interested in why you like Spectre more. I'm always looking for better metering.

eriknorlander · Post by **eriknorlander** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:16 pm

soundsun wrote: As a user the InspectorXL I'd be very interested in why you like Spectre more. I'm always looking for better metering.

Yes, yes! Marcmarc and others, please do elaborate. Inspector XL and Spectre are both about the same price, and happily less than half of Waves PAZ (which most of you guys here seem to think is outclassed by these others). Would love to hear more -- I will almost surely go with either Inspector XL or Spectre instead of PAZ based on this thread. Grazie!

Cheers,
Erik

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:24 pm

Inspector XL is fantastic, Erik. Be confident in that. I'm 99% sure it has a freeze somewhere. I just can't remember where it is, and don't have it open at this time. Worst case: do a screen shot, or even a series of them.

I've used Inspector XL to solve a lot of mysteries and to explain things that were hard to put into words--such as the difference between Akoustik Piano and Ivory which I did in a review about this time last year. (version 1.0 of Ivory was noisy and inferior to Akoustik Piano--clearly visible in the screen grabs of Inspector. Version 1.5 of Ivory sounds like it was completely revamped, and is now phenomenally better)

Anyway, I can't find anything not to like about Inspector, but there may be better plugs out there. I just haven't seen 'em.

Shooshie

marcmarc · Post by **marcmarc** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:16 am

What I especially like about Spectre vs. InspectorXL is that you can tweak it really as you want (and I don't mean audio parameters only).

But where it is (for me) a winner is because it's not just an AU plug... and in fact it is not an AU (nor MAS) plug : it works with the AppleAUNetSend.

If you have one computer : You put an AppleAUNetSend as insert in the Mixer and you fire Spectre.
If Spectre has been configured properly, the audio signal comes via an embedded AUNetReceive and you can see the meters working.

But the beauty of the thing is when you have Spectre on an other computer on your network : you start Spectre and the audio comes via your network ! No audio interface, no hassle...

In fact, since I have Spectre, I've bought a macMini just for metering purpose...

BTW : I think InspectorXL is a VERY GOOD product too !

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