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Jaysplace101
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Post by Jaysplace101 »

matwell wrote:- Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.
I'll add to that:

1. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.

2. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.

3. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.

4. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.

5. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.

6. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.

7. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.


oh..... and one more I just thought of.... if we could have lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized clode, that would be fantastic!

j
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Post by Frodo »

1. Simpler and more seemless integration of hardware audio gear as inserts in the Mixer

2. The ability to use DP even if an Audio Unit does not pass the AU Exam (works sometimes, but mostly DP crashes if it doesn't like an AU)

3. Overhaul the BTD issue once and for all

4. Improve the Save feature where the bogus "cannot save" warning pops up

5. In conjunction with the above two issues, fix the need to flush Undo History to allow for BTD and saving files

6. Fix the ability to open older projects in updated apps

7. HD frame support

8. Expand file format compatibility

9. Make DP the #1 app for electronic musicians
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Post by poldo »

Jaysplace101 wrote:
matwell wrote:- Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.
I'll add to that:

1. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.

2. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.

3. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.

4. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.

5. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.

6. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.

7. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.


oh..... and one more I just thought of.... if we could have lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized clode, that would be fantastic!

j
Do you really think that DP's code is badly written ?

or do you want a snappier interface and a faster program in general ?
I really believe that OSX in all it's greatness is part of the slowness experienced by everybody. Look at the finder. Do you find it generally as responsive as OS9 was ?

I think that DP5 with the added instruments etc. shows that MOTU believes that there is not much to be done deep down the coding architecture of DP. Otherwise, they would more likely have done something about it.

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Post by Spikey Horse »

I've often wished for a thin 'display only' strip at the top of the GE which I could select an audio track to have as a visual reference only when working on MIDI.

I know I can reposition the SE or even the WFE window but it's a drag! .... although probably a lot easier now I have a bigger display at last...

Actually I think I'd quite like a thin strip of a window which could stretch accross the top or bottom of the screen and be a visual guide only with ability to display one track at a time (from a drop down) either audio, MIDI or conductor. Complete with mini wiper (a bit like the new WFE window only really thin with no editing features). I mean I've always found teh 'position bar' under the main transport controls to be completely useless as either an indication of where you are or a way to move to somewhere else.

P.S. I know markers can be very useful but for me only once a project has settled down a bit if you know what I mean ... and I still like to have a the visual cue of a waveform - I often don't record to a click track and like to use a track's waveform for timing cues while overdubbing, at least initially....
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Post by Jaysplace101 »

poldo wrote: Do you really think that DP's code is badly written ?

or do you want a snappier interface and a faster program in general ?
I really believe that OSX in all it's greatness is part of the slowness experienced by everybody. Look at the finder. Do you find it generally as responsive as OS9 was ?

I think that DP5 with the added instruments etc. shows that MOTU believes that there is not much to be done deep down the coding architecture of DP. Otherwise, they would more likely have done something about it.

poldo
I don't know. That's the big debate. From everything I've read, it sure seems like Logic is utilizing quite a bit more horsepower than DP. So, it makes me think we're missing something. It could have something to do with the mac OS.... but I just have to say, it's frustrating to buy bigger and better computers and not see a reciprocol boost in power. And, even the guys reporting back with their new Mac Pros runnning binary DP don't seem that impressed. I was hoping the new Macs coupled with DP would take over the world. It's just my view that there's some optimization issues with DP.... and that's based on a lot of reading...

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Post by Matcher »

poldo wrote:
Jaysplace101 wrote:
matwell wrote:- Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.
I'll add to that:

1. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.

2. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.

3. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.

4. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.

5. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.

6. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.

7. Lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized code. Please.


oh..... and one more I just thought of.... if we could have lean, well-written, close-to-the-metal, optimized clode, that would be fantastic!

j
Do you really think that DP's code is badly written ?

or do you want a snappier interface and a faster program in general ?
I really believe that OSX in all it's greatness is part of the slowness experienced by everybody. Look at the finder. Do you find it generally as responsive as OS9 was ?

I think that DP5 with the added instruments etc. shows that MOTU believes that there is not much to be done deep down the coding architecture of DP. Otherwise, they would more likely have done something about it.

poldo

Guys guys, come on now..didn't you read the David Lawrence interview from MOTU's site:

David: ...And I'm running DP 5.01 and the screen redraws are blazingly faster than they were with DP 4.61, as promised, and the computer is much more efficient - if that's even possible. Noticeably.

MOTU: There was a lot of optimization in the code for Version 5.

David: And it is incredibly noticeable.


And to wrap it up:

MOTU: Yes, our systems will continue to get significantly faster and more capable.



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poldo
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Post by poldo »

Guys guys, come on now..didn't you read the David Lawrence interview from MOTU's site:

David: ...And I'm running DP 5.01 and the screen redraws are blazingly faster than they were with DP 4.61, as promised, and the computer is much more efficient - if that's even possible. Noticeably.

MOTU: There was a lot of optimization in the code for Version 5.

David: And it is incredibly noticeable.


And to wrap it up:

MOTU: Yes, our systems will continue to get significantly faster and more capable.


Well the only time I felt a noticeable change is when I surpassed 2GO of Ram. I am absolutely sure of that ! But then again, OSX is part of it... :?
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Post by Matcher »

Yeah, after all the reports here in unicornation I'm not buying that "incredibly noticeable" difference. :) It might be so with some projects, but not in general.
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Post by matwell »

I don't think it's OS X. My personal experience with running DP, Logic and Pro Tools LE on the *same* computer, audio hardware, sequence and VI's proved to me that Logic is the most CPU efficient of the three platforms. So, that leads me to believe that DP needs some work done "under the hood". DP is pretty great with external MIDI gear. It just needs work when you are trying to create full, complex productions with VI's.
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Post by Rush909 »

matwell wrote:I don't think it's OS X. My personal experience with running DP, Logic and Pro Tools LE on the *same* computer, audio hardware, sequence and VI's proved to me that Logic is the most CPU efficient of the three platforms. So, that leads me to believe that DP needs some work done "under the hood". DP is pretty great with external MIDI gear. It just needs work when you are trying to create full, complex productions with VI's.
WELL SAID... that is exactly how I feel... as soon as VI get into the picture DP is almost useless... without VIs DP is a lean machine IMHO...
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Post by Jim »

More mouse wheel support on all functions (like FCP and AE do it) and improve the scrolling by implementing a hand-grabber tool that we can use to whip the Sequence and Track windows around.
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Post by Jaysplace101 »

Rush909 wrote:
matwell wrote:I don't think it's OS X. My personal experience with running DP, Logic and Pro Tools LE on the *same* computer, audio hardware, sequence and VI's proved to me that Logic is the most CPU efficient of the three platforms. So, that leads me to believe that DP needs some work done "under the hood". DP is pretty great with external MIDI gear. It just needs work when you are trying to create full, complex productions with VI's.
WELL SAID... that is exactly how I feel... as soon as VI get into the picture DP is almost useless... without VIs DP is a lean machine IMHO...
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Post by cridarco »

I wish to find in next DP version:

- A convolution reverb
- a vocoder
- open patch list sub menus in track window with a mouse click, not with mouse passing
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Post by csiaudio »

I would like to see easier audio editing. In comparing Pro Tools with DP - Pro Tools is simplistic while DP is a total chore.

There's my 2 cents.....:wink:
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Post by toodamnhip »

Muteable MIDI notes so I can try diferent ideas out in the same MIDI track
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