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bone.china · Post by **bone.china** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:39 pm

David Polich wrote: You piqued my interest with the mention of Jane Child. Although he'd never bring it up unless you asked him, Jane Child's original demo (most of which later ended up as her first album with all those hits) was produced by none other than our very own Waxman! He was the guy who introduced her to MIDI and drum machines and synths - before that she was basically a hippie chick who strummed guitar and wrote some songs.
I heard "Don't Wanna Fall In Love" WAY before it was on a released album. Waxman did all the programming and arrangements.

Now here's the even stranger part - I think I saw Jane Child at the Burbank Airport last night while I was there to pick up my wife. Pretty sure it was her - much older, no longer an ingenue, of course.

Now that was a killer track! I bought it on cassette (showing my age here) and couldn't get enough of it. It's playing back in my mind now that I write this as if I only heard it a couple of minutes ago. The rest of the album that it was on was a very dark affair, though.

No such thing as coincidences.

bone.china · Post by **bone.china** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:50 pm

Speaking of MIDI, ever since I deleted the AppleMIDIUSBDriver.plugin from the System Extensions folder I have had MUCH better performance from my VIs. That is to say that now stuck notes only happen sparingly as opposed to every other note. I wish it didn't happen at all but it only occuring one in a 6 hour session is very nearly bliss for me compared to what I was going through before.

npatton · Post by **npatton** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:05 pm

Oh. My. Gosh. "Don't Wanna Fall" was long enough ago for me that the biggest impact it had on me at the time was how weird it was for a woman to have a chain going from her nose to her ear. What a great track! In 1990, I figured all music using drum machines was evil, so I pretty much ignored stuff like this. Thanks for reopening the door to this era for a moment! Very fun...

n
(Could we get any more off topic? Sorry...)

taggart · Post by **taggart** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:17 pm

David Polich wrote:Jane Child's original demo was produced by none other than our very own Waxman!

In my best Jerry Seinfeld whispered fake anger voice (With clenched fist)..."Waxman!"

Rush909 · Post by **Rush909** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:49 pm

I thought Jane Child was the keyboard "wiz" at the time - she looked it in the video that is for sure... I thought she produced and programmed that entire album.... at least that is what was being "put forth"... I guess I was foolish to believe the hype back then...

r.

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:14 pm

chrispick wrote:Here's his artist homepage. Just for context's sake:
http://www.velvetacidchrist.com
He does seem to know a little about synths. But, as his nomikers convey, he's perhaps a bit less interested in cordiality...

Aah, context.
The truth shall set us free.

From the site:
Fun With Knives - From an engineering and production standpoint is by far the best work ever done by Velvet Acid Christ.

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:11 am

Rush909 wrote:I thought Jane Child was the keyboard "wiz" at the time - she looked it in the video that is for sure... I thought she produced and programmed that entire album.... at least that is what was being "put forth"... I guess I was foolish to believe the hype back then...

r.

Well, there is an additional controller in the technological arsenal of many ambitious women, which they happen to handle with fantastic skill. It's called a "guy." Having said that, however, I've known some women who were gifted at MIDI and programming, and could set up the bottles on their big endians and knock 'em down with the least-significant-bit right up there with the best of 'em. Of course... er... one of those women technically WAS a man at the time her "Switched On Bach" album first came out. But there are real ones who are great, too. We just tend not to hear about them as much. Perhaps Jane Child was the real deal once Waxman set her on the road to synthesizing. After all, the art is in the musician; the skills can be learned.

Shooshie

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:43 am

Shooshie wrote:... Of course... er... one of those women technically WAS a man at the time her "Switched On Bach" album first came out.
Shooshie

Oh, do tell!

A factually challenged monkey implores you, meister...

boonier · Post by **boonier** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:07 am

monkey man wrote:
Shooshie wrote:... Of course... er... one of those women technically WAS a man at the time her "Switched On Bach" album first came out.
Shooshie
Oh, do tell!
A factually challenged monkey implores you, meister...

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YouTube · Post by **James Steele** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:29 am

I'm probably glad those graphics in the post above are not showing up. Any way Shooshie is referring to Wendy Carlos who many years ago was Walter Carlos when she released Switched on Bach, which was something of a milestone. She later underwent sex reassignment surgery. She's a brilliant person and I remember feeling my head start to ache as I once tried to follow some article in Computer Music Journal about microtonal scales she had invented.

Newsles · Post by **Newsles** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:07 am

Um, er, I know Ive been away for a while but what's this er "Thread?" doing in the DP section? I take it that was the point of the deleted posts then?

It's just I thought policy here was quite strict about what went where etc?

Not that I'm being critical, I just thought we had clearly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty?

Cheers

Les

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:33 am

Newsles wrote:Um, er, I know Ive been away for a while but what's this er "Thread?" doing in the DP section? I take it that was the point of the deleted posts then?

It's just I thought policy here was quite strict about what went where etc?

Not that I'm being critical, I just thought we had clearly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty?

Cheers

Les

Les, you missed the first post which the member deleted-- and then changed the thread title. It had to do with functions of DP based on some years-old critique of Cubase, weighing G-series computers with the Atari system (which the member claimed would be his choice, FWIW).

boonier · Post by **boonier** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:25 pm

James Steele wrote:I'm probably glad those graphics in the post above are not showing up. Any way Shooshie is referring to Wendy Carlos who many years ago was Walter Carlos when she released Switched on Bach, which was something of a milestone. She later underwent sex reassignment surgery. She's a brilliant person and I remember feeling my head start to ache as I once tried to follow some article in Computer Music Journal about microtonal scales she had invented.

ah ahem ,

sounds like i was clearly off the mark with where this topic went...absolutely... I had *no* idea. I think I misunderstood the tone of the last post, which impelled me to post some pictures, which incidently weren't of *that* nature. I was making the connection with the late Bob Moog having a large influence at that period, and clearly got my wires crossed. Oh dear, i feel rather naive.

I too am in awe of her work, particularly in The Shining.

I hope my post didn't come across as crass in any way...It was never intended as such. My apologies.

S

YouTube · Post by **James Steele** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:49 pm

Oh hey... no worries boonier. I shouldn't have mad any assumptions about the graphics if I hadn't seent them. I just thought "oh, uh... somebody's gonna make a joke about it..." Not a big deal, and yes, Wendy's something of a pioneer and that's all that's important.

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:48 am

Wow, thanks for the "info", guys.
I'm amazed I didn't know that about her (notice the politically-correct absence of inverted commas around the word "her"... oops ... oh, well

) having respected her too for so long.
I suppose when all you're exposed to is art and critiques, this makes sense.

I guitarist I knew had heaps of respect for Lee Ritenour.
He'd listened to Lee for 20 years, and, as a matter of fact, had even put me onto his work.
Tragically, when he learned of Lee's apparent sexual preference, a macho, homophobic attitude surfaced and to my knowledge the poor fella hasn't even heard Lee's "Wesbound" tribute to Wes.
In fact, he hasn't heard a bar of Lee since around '93, I believe.
Man, has he missed out.

I've heard nothing of his since "Wesbound", but Lee seemed to have put more hard work, study and application into that one than any since "First Course", which I think was circa '73, and was supposedly a pioneering work in the jr/fusion area.
Unicorners would agree it's great to see any player broaden his horizons, rather than "live on the fat" and drift on some sort of auto-pilot for the rest of his (probably lucrative) career.
Rant over.
Sorry, thank you and I love y'all (the ultimate, succinct CMA speech!)