Tiger on my system a MASSIVE improvment!
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Tiger on my system a MASSIVE improvment!
On my G5 2.5 w/8 gig ram I got the following improvements:
Available memory - huge increase. The OS now sees all 8 gig of ram, where in Panther it only saw 4 gig. I can load over 3 gigs of samples into Mach Five and it loads literally twice as fast. The Virtual Memory cap for DP is still 3.5 gig, but the huge gap that used to exist between Real Memory and Virtual Memory is sharply reduced.
CPU useage - WAY down. I don't know why this is, but when I play a 10 voice pad with long releases in MX4 the CPU meter is about half where it was in Panther. Same with large polyphony assignments in Mach Five.
All my plugins and VI's work. (Altiverb 5, URS Classic Console EQ's, all Sonalksis plugs, Amplitube, PSP 84 & Nitro, all OhmForce, TriTone Digital, all MOTU, all Spectrasonics - including running RMX with VST Wrapper for multi-outputs.)
PACE ilok works - (URS, MachFive, MX4, Ativerb5 use ilok)
Other audio programs - Barbabatch 4, AudioFinder, Audio Hijack, Recycle 2.1, Abelton Live 4.1.1 - all working.
Expose- remember how hitting F9 in DP caused all the AU plugins and the Consolidated window to mutliply by 2? No more.
Booting, launching, saving, shut-down, restart - all much faster.
I don't notice as big a difference in the GUI, although window resizing seems smoother and basic scrolling in all DP windows is noticeably faster.
I did the basic "update" installation, from 10.3.9. The only issue I had was I couldn't Shut-down or Restart my computer. The problem was caused by the QuickBack startup item installed by my SpeedTools utility set. I just removed it and all is well. (Thank you Apple Tiger discussions forum for that info!)
I don't know if G4 users would see this big a difference, but on my G5 - holy crap. Now, all that glowing assessment aside, I haven't given it a thorough beating yet. That will be after the weekend is over.
Available memory - huge increase. The OS now sees all 8 gig of ram, where in Panther it only saw 4 gig. I can load over 3 gigs of samples into Mach Five and it loads literally twice as fast. The Virtual Memory cap for DP is still 3.5 gig, but the huge gap that used to exist between Real Memory and Virtual Memory is sharply reduced.
CPU useage - WAY down. I don't know why this is, but when I play a 10 voice pad with long releases in MX4 the CPU meter is about half where it was in Panther. Same with large polyphony assignments in Mach Five.
All my plugins and VI's work. (Altiverb 5, URS Classic Console EQ's, all Sonalksis plugs, Amplitube, PSP 84 & Nitro, all OhmForce, TriTone Digital, all MOTU, all Spectrasonics - including running RMX with VST Wrapper for multi-outputs.)
PACE ilok works - (URS, MachFive, MX4, Ativerb5 use ilok)
Other audio programs - Barbabatch 4, AudioFinder, Audio Hijack, Recycle 2.1, Abelton Live 4.1.1 - all working.
Expose- remember how hitting F9 in DP caused all the AU plugins and the Consolidated window to mutliply by 2? No more.
Booting, launching, saving, shut-down, restart - all much faster.
I don't notice as big a difference in the GUI, although window resizing seems smoother and basic scrolling in all DP windows is noticeably faster.
I did the basic "update" installation, from 10.3.9. The only issue I had was I couldn't Shut-down or Restart my computer. The problem was caused by the QuickBack startup item installed by my SpeedTools utility set. I just removed it and all is well. (Thank you Apple Tiger discussions forum for that info!)
I don't know if G4 users would see this big a difference, but on my G5 - holy crap. Now, all that glowing assessment aside, I haven't given it a thorough beating yet. That will be after the weekend is over.
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Re: Tiger on my system a MASSIVE improvment!
Awesome -- thanks! My Tiger is due Monday 

Mac Pro 2.66 | 8GB | X.4.11 | 828mk2 | UAD-1 + 2 | Logic 8 | DP 6
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Re: Tiger on my system a MASSIVE improvment!
I'm sure 8gb of ram helps to...
Dang
Can't wait to cram my G5 full o
ram..
(Sounds like a dirty movie)
Dang

Can't wait to cram my G5 full o
ram..
(Sounds like a dirty movie)

A 2018 Mac mini with 16 gb of ram
HUGE bunch o' AU instruments/fx...
A Metric Halo ULN8-3D…mmmmmmm
Remember to eat all your fruits and vegetables!
My OS is The amazingly gratuitous 10.14
HUGE bunch o' AU instruments/fx...
A Metric Halo ULN8-3D…mmmmmmm
Remember to eat all your fruits and vegetables!
My OS is The amazingly gratuitous 10.14
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Re: Tiger on my system a MASSIVE improvment!
NO UAD1. My biggest peeve.
Appa trigger looses audio source on import to Tiger.
Eq tones are different.
Haven't decided if I like it or not.
May just be cleaner.
Appa trigger looses audio source on import to Tiger.
Eq tones are different.
Haven't decided if I like it or not.
May just be cleaner.
2009 Intel 12 core 3.46, 64GB, OSX.10.14.6, Mojave, DP11, MTPAV, Key-station 49,(2) RME FF800,
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- emulatorloo
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Re: Tiger on my system a MASSIVE improvment!
G4 user here -- booting, UI, saving, daily stuff is all considerably faster on my g4 1ghz.Originally posted by JFB:
I don't know if G4 users would see this big a difference
This is just general usage stuff, because I have not put Tiger on my DAW yet.
However, just wanted to chime in and say "Yes, Tiger brings speed improvements for G4 Users."
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Re: Tiger on my system a MASSIVE improvment!
Timeline,Originally posted by Timeline:
Eq tones are different.
Haven't decided if I like it or not.
May just be cleaner.
Do you mean the Para EQ and/or the MW EQ?
DP 10.13, OS 13.7.5, iMac Pro (2017) 3.2 GHz 8-Core, 32 GB RAM, MOTU M4
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Re: Tiger on my system a MASSIVE improvment!
Sorry i've been working...
Yes both.
Yes both.
2009 Intel 12 core 3.46, 64GB, OSX.10.14.6, Mojave, DP11, MTPAV, Key-station 49,(2) RME FF800,
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Re: Tiger on my system a MASSIVE improvment!
I can't wait until I can finally get 8 gigs of ram. That sounds way cool.Originally posted by JFB:
The OS now sees all 8 gig of ram, where in Panther it only saw 4 gig. I can load over 3 gigs of samples into Mach Five and it loads literally twice as fast.

MacPro5,1 2012, six core 2 x 3.06, 10.12.5, Digital Performer 9.13, 40 gb ram, 828mkIII, 2408 mkII, MTP AV, Logic Pro X 10.3.1, Studio One v 3.2, Pro Tools 12.7.1
Re: Tiger on my system a MASSIVE improvment!
Tiger's great, but a note to those like me who've not upgraded to 4.5. DP4.12 doesn't work under Tiger. That and Retrospect are the only apps I use that won't work under Tiger.
Re: Tiger on my system a MASSIVE improvment!
Looks like Im going to have to max that memory out soon.
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