Fixing Clicks on punch in/out

[chagmusic]

What is the best way to fix clicks between segments when i punch an instrument to fix an area?

[jerkrecords]

the best way is to get the punch in/out points at zero crossings of the waveform. what are recording exactly?
if for example you have a big messy electric guitar track that you've got a punch in in the middle of a chord, you need to drill down and edge edit the two soundbites till the waveforms line up. (in other words, make sure you don't have one soundbite's wave high on the Y axis switching instantaneously to the next soundbite with a wave deep in -Y territory. that will give you a serious click.

pete

[Noizemaker]

You can do like jerkrecords or, depending on what is before and after the punch, a simple crossfade may do the job

[chagmusic]

Thanks for the advice.

I'm recording piano and seem to always need to punch in the middle of something.

[bassie12]

Punch in early and punch out late. One of the great things about digital recording is the non destructive aspect of hard disk systems. Don't stress about "making a punch" exactly around the flubbed note or problem area. The more you give yourself to work with, the more options you'll have. I find punching and editing piano one of the most enjoyable & rewarding aspects of recording in the digital realm. It's amazing what can be pulled off. As long as the player knows not to play wildly divergent voicings in areas where you or he require specific voicings, especially in chord "ring outs", you're golden. Once you have a good performance where you need it, slide around the in & outs til you find a place to make it work. Crossfade if necessary & move on. There's always way to make an edit work. Pop music, classical and other forms with repetitive structures and reasonably consistent tempos afford you the luxury of going to a previous iteration of a song section and "lifting" a "good bit" and putting it where you need it. Just like classical music editors have been doing for almost 60 years(with scissors, razor blades, glue or editing tape).

Finally, the best way to avoid pops & clicks is to edit close to transients, not during sustained notes. The piano's harmonic structure is so complex that, even though a zero cross edit may not create an "edit click", the harmonic "shift" due to subtle(or not so subtle) voicing differences can be really irritating. Making edits just before hammer strikes eliminates most of theses issues. Even if there is a sustained chord over then new note, the strike will usually mask the harmonic "shift" due to differences between the punch and the original.

Good luck!

[zara_drummer]

I wanted to expand on what Bassie12 said about punching in and out...

I have learned and have become very good at punching in and out right before or after beats...Following the drum pattern and counting the exact amount of time (in beats) you want to record the punch in, then punch it out.

I generally will rehearse the punch just so I can get a count and get a natural in and out point. It has worked very well for me thus far.

Then of course a simple crossfade to clean things up.

Best of luck to you!