maximum number of samples loadable into Machfive?

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ManOtunes
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maximum number of samples loadable into Machfive?

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I use the MachFive with Logic 7.2. I've been programming around three hundred samples into 6 or 7 instances of MachFive. Once I program the sounds, I set them to stream from the disk, then turn off the preset, and then I set the whole instrument to bypass. I'm trying to have a huge library of sounds available to me, but when i want to play them, i plan to turn off bypass.

This way i can minimize the RAM and cpu usage until i need it. When i check the cpu monitor, i'm around 20-30%, and i have over a gig of spare RAM (when i check activity monitor)
Once i reach a certain number of loaded samples, Logic crashes. WHY? I'm not actually playing the sounds yet, so the hard drive can't be overloaded due to all the streaming. I'm just loading them. Spare RAM, spare CPU, and still, it crashes.

Is there a limit to the number of open files (like there was in OS 9?) I used to use Cubase VST 5.1 with OS 9 and i was able to load more samples than this. Surely OS X and LP7.2 can handle more than this.

I'm eagerly waiting to buy one of the intel towers, but will this problem be solved? I don't want to spend a fortune only to see spare CPU meter and a crashing Logic.

Any ideas anyone?
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Re: maximum number of samples loadable into Machfive?

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ManOtunes wrote: Once i reach a certain number of loaded samples, Logic crashes. WHY? I'm not actually playing the sounds yet, so the hard drive can't be overloaded due to all the streaming. I'm just loading them. Spare RAM, spare CPU, and still, it crashes.

Is there a limit to the number of open files (like there was in OS 9?) I used to use Cubase VST 5.1 with OS 9 and i was able to load more samples than this. Surely OS X and LP7.2 can handle more than this.
I doubt it's an OS restriction. Unix is quite robust. But, you might be running into some sort of restriction or buffer problem in Logic. You might also have a disk i/o problem where you're just taxing the disk too much. Where do you have the M5 samples? Are they on your main drive? Optimally I find things work best if I have three disks:

1. Application/OS
2. Song files
3. Samples for MachFive, EXS, etc.
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Re: maximum number of samples loadable into Machfive?

Post by meeloo »

billf wrote:
ManOtunes wrote: I doubt it's an OS restriction. Unix is quite robust. But, you might be running into some sort of restriction or buffer problem in Logic.
It is not a question of robustness. MacOSX like all unices, have a limit on the number of simultaneous open file descriptors. Check out http://forum.edonkey.com/viewtopic.php? ... 25ebb049f1
to learn how to change the limit. (one streaming sample = one file descriptor opened + all the one used by the system, the apps, and remember that on unix, everything is a file so an application can eat them up quite fast).

Cheers,

meeloo
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